Destiny wrote:Mind you, my husbands notebook/laptop came with QT preinstalled and I have seen many XP PC's with it too.. So perhaps its only a limited issue.. but its not that hard to download anyway and its really handy to have.. So I do not really see it as a problem...
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mediavets wrote:In my opinion it's a real problem.
If you use Firefox as a browser it's not obvious at all that you need to download the QT Player. Most users wouldn't know they need it nor how to get it. It's a huge download and ever after Apple's automatic software updating will try and get you to also download iTunes.
QT Player is not 'handy to have' for most people. It's a clumsy and buggy piece of software - at least on Windows.
Any person viewing tours from a Windows PC in a business environment or an educational establsihment will almost certainly not be permitted to download and install programs.
I admire you for trying to get a transparent cross-platform solution to handling video and audio in krpano-based tours for both Flash-enabled and iDevices. But as you have demonstrated it seems it is not yet possible.
You've ended up with a 'solution' that does not offer the same behaviour on both Flash-enabled and iDevice platforms. It is clumsy to say the least on iDevices and (worse) also compromises playback on Flash-enabled platforms which otherwise didn't have a problem.
I dare say the iDevice-compatible krpano player will at some stage handle video and audio and that may enable Kolor to offer a transparent cross-platform solution to the support for video and audio on virtual tours created with PTP.
Until then, in my opinion, most PTP users would be well advised just to accept that video and audio will not be played back in 'mobile compatible' tours when viewed on iDevices and to design their 'mobile compatible' tours accordingly.
In the meantime, in the case of video it would be nice if Kolor could modify PTP so that things degraded more gracefully than they do now on iDevices - for example if a still image appeared in place of the video or something like that.
Here's an iDevice related cartoon that may amuse you?:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/?cartoon=8408164&cc=8353600
Destiny wrote:You do realise Andrew that you do not need QT now... The PC and Mac version is Flash as per normal... However, the iDevice is a QT but its the same url...
And... you mentioned about a still image in place of the Video on an iDevice.. Well.. that's what you should be seeing... Its an image with Play on it... since you cannot play it within the pano it opens a new window.. Perhaps that does not work your end.. It works on my iPod fine.. The only issue with that is I cannot put it to Distort true to stop it moving face on to the panning.. it looks stupid as is, but kolor said they do not support that feature so there is nothing I can do... My pano is no different to a normal pano with a movie playing in it.. The only difference what I have done.. when you open the same link in an iDevice it will open but without the movie playing, there will an image with a url on it to the movie.. I did not do the same with the Audio link.. since I just tried it out as a demo.. the music icon still shows but the link will not work.. I did not bother making a url for it.. The ONLY thing that I have added to my movie pano, is there is a link on the movie.. Thats it.. but unfortunately that link opens a QT movie meant for the iDevice.. but anyone using Firefox or what ever does not need to click on the movie or play it since it already plays within the pano.. As soon as I work out a way of making the two separate then I can remove the link on the PC/Mac flash pano version so if any one clicks on the movie it does nothing..... it will only have an active value in an iDevice where it opens the movie in a new window...
I have just downloaded a different software app that allows for all the editing you are suggesting.. Things are changing in this area so fast, I almost forgot that there are other options out there..
mediavets wrote:Normally Flash-enabled viewers would be able to click on the 'in place' movie to stop/start it. But with your 'solution' if you attempt that it will instead try and open the Quicktime player in/on a new page. The video is a clickable object and people will click on it whether you intend them tyo or not.
Hence my comment that not only is it a clunky 'solution' for the iDevice but it also compromises playback on Flash-enabled platforms.
The desired solution is for movies to play 'in place' with the same appearance, same controls and same behaviours on both platforms. The krpano iDevice-compatible player doesn't permit that yet. Until it does and those features are supported via the PTP GUI then I for one will just accept that 'mobile compatible' PTP tours do not offer video and audio playback on iDevices and design tours accordingly; but it would be nice if PTP automagically placed a still image in the place of the 'in place' video rather than a black pulsing circles animated GIF.
Gordon wrote:Hmm clock is showing UK time here in the UK, I have a feeling the clock script is java based and takes the time from the machine it's running on!
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Gordon
Gordon wrote:Hmm clock is showing UK time here in the UK, I have a feeling the clock script is java based and takes the time from the machine it's running on!
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Gordon
Destiny wrote:I hope my clock works your end but remember its set Australia time…
klausesser wrote:Destiny wrote:I hope my clock works your end but remember its set Australia time…
Destiny: you better shouldn´t use this badly modeled candle light on the table in the restaurant . . . .
And the clock on the wall definitely needs shadows . .
best, Klaus
Destiny wrote:by the way.. did you ever check out my '?' button on my buttons.. My demo thumb navigation... not linked to my pano yet.. just in testing mode... but it looks good... I think!
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Destiny wrote:Not sure what you mean by.... '- the no-user-interaction animation - I just can't decide whether I love or hate this.'
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mediavets wrote:I mean that once you open the Help/thumbnail display, via the '?' key, the thumbnails animate, enlarging and scrolling sequentially automatically, without any user interaction.
klausesser wrote:Destiny: you better shouldn´t use this badly modeled candle light on the table in the restaurant . . . .
And the clock on the wall definitely needs shadows . .
best, Klaus
Destiny wrote:Hi.. I changed the '?' button since it might go unnoticed so I now hope it is now more noticeable and relevant....
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Destiny wrote:oh well done for being so observent.. really funny when the penny dropped... I had to think for a few seconds.. Thank you for that.... I did not even think about it.. I guess I must be getting tried.. hard day with my students..
Not to worry... I have updated that now Andrew..
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