Utilisation du preset 180/360°  

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Utilisation du preset 180/360°

by babgon » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:19 pm

Bonjour,

Je possède une tête et module BT depuis seulement quelques jours.

J'ai génère un preset pour faire un panorama 360°, via le script Dispo sur le forum

J'ai choisi le mode paysage, car je ne possède que le rail d'origine de la tête

Je mets mon reflex avec son objectif 10mm à  l'horizontal. Sur le rail

Lorsque je lance le preset dans papywizard, il me prends les photos. C'est assez bizarre car un moment mon reflex se retrouve à  l'envers

Bref lorsque dans autopano pro je charge le fichier XML et les photos, le logiciel n'arrive pas a me faire un panorama


Que faut il faire ?
Merci
Last edited by babgon on Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by fma38 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:42 pm

babgon wrote:[...]C'est assez bizarre car un moment l pan de retrouve a l'envers[...]

Pas compris, là ...
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by mediavets » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:58 pm

babgon wrote:Bonjour,

Je possède une tête et module BT depuis seulement quelques jours.

J'ai genere un preset pour faire un panorama 360°, via le script Dispo sur le forum

J'ai choisi le mode paysage, car je ne possède que le rail d'origine de la tête

Je mets mon reflex avec son objectif 10mm a l'horizontal. Sur le rail

Lorsque je lance le preset dans papywizard, il me prends les photos. C'est assez bizarre car un moment l pan de retrouve a l'envers

Bref lorsque dans autopano pro je charge le fichier XML et les photos, le logiciel n arrive pas a me faire un panorama


Que faut il faire ?
Merci

I think the problem may be because this preset generator produces presets that assume that:

"The preset generated assumes top-center (zenith) corner of the pano is the home position that is yaw = 0, and pitch = 0.

This is not the usual reference position - which would be looking straight ahead with the camera rail at 90 degrees to the vertical arm of the Merlin.

If you inspect the shooting position values in the XML data fle you will probably find some very strange values outside of the range of +90 to -90 on the vertical axis (pitch). As a result the Papywizard Import wizard does not work properly because it expects values on the vertical axis (pitch) in the range +90 to -90, and on the horizontal axis (yaw) between +180 and -180.

What camera and lens are you using? It may be that someone has already created a suitable custom preset for your configuration.

If you hope to shoot 360x180 panos indoors it is very unlikely that you will be able to mount your camera/lens at the No Parallax Point (NPP) with the camera mounted in landscape orientation.

To mount the camera in portrait orientation you can either disassemble the L-bracket or buy or make a simple rail.
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by babgon » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:02 pm

mediavets wrote:,
I think the problem may be because this preset generator produces presets that assume that:

"The preset generated assumes top-center (zenith) corner of the pano is the home position that is yaw = 0, and pitch = 0.

This is not the usual reference position - which would be looking straight ahead with the camera rail at 90 degrees to the vertical arm of the Merlin.

If you inspect the shooting position values in the XML data fle you will probably find some very strange values outside of the range of +90 to -90 on the vertical axis (pitch). As a result the Papywizard Import wizard does not work properly because it expects values on the vertical axis (pitch) in the range +90 to -90, and on the horizontal axis (yaw) between +180 and -180.

What camera and lens are you using? It may be that someone has already created a suitable custom preset for your configuration.

If you hope to shoot 360x180 panos indoors it is very unlikely that you will be able to mount your camera/lens at the No Parallax Point (NPP) with the camera mounted in landscape orientation.

To mount the camera in portrait orientation you can either disassemble the L-bracket or buy or make a simple rail.

I have a Canon EOS 400D with Canon EF-S 10-22.
So I need a simple rail for No parallax Point.
Sugestion for a simple Rail ?

thanks

J'ai un Canon EOS 400D avec un Canon EF-S 10-22
Donc j'ai besoin d'un rail pour corriger le problème de NPP
Des suggestions pour un rail ?
Merci
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by mediavets » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:19 pm

babgon wrote:I have a Canon EOS 400D with Canon EF-S 10-22.
So I need a simple rail for No parallax Point.
Sugestion for a simple Rail ?

thanks

Some tips and relevant info here - also instructions on disassembling the L-bracket:
http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/PapyMerlin_FAQ#Mounting_the_camera_on_the_Merlin

You can make one out of wood:
http://www.autopano.net/forum/p37570-2009-01-24-22-56-43#p37570

You can buy something like this - which is what I use, along with a 1/4 bolt, washer and wingnut to connect the camera:
http://www.pulsar-optical.co.uk/prod/ScopeTeknix-accessories/halfdovetail-bar/dovetailm.html

Some pictures here:
http://www.autopano.net/forum/p62985-2010-05-09-20-52-34#p62985

Another user with your lens found this shooring pattern worked well at 10mm:
4 shots @ -45°
8 shots @ 0°
4 shots @ +45°

I think you could create your own custom preset for that pattern by following this simple guide:
http://www.papywizard.org/wiki/UserGuideSvn#Presetmode

Use a simple text editor, save the file with UTF-8 encoding (Notepad can do this on Windows) and name it <whatever>.xml. Then to test it load it on a per-session basis into Papywizard using the File/Import preset file... command.
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by babgon » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:46 am

mediavets wrote:You can buy something like this - which is what I use, along with a 1/4 bolt, washer and wingnut to connect the camera:
http://www.pulsar-optical.co.uk/prod/ScopeTeknix-accessories/halfdovetail-bar/dovetailm.html

Hello,
I received a response from the seller (pulsar-optical.co.uk/). It does not ship to France.
You lived in the UK. Is it conceivable that you buy me and you
send it? (I'll pay by paypal for example?)

Otherwise, I'll get in France ...
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by babgon » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:29 am

Est ce que l'un de c'est produit peut etre compatible ?
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by Hansenlair » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:57 pm

babgon wrote:J'ai un Canon EOS 400D avec un Canon EF-S 10-22
Donc j'ai besoin d'un rail pour corriger le problème de NPP
Des suggestions pour un rail ?
Merci

regarde un peu le 400d doit avoir les mêmes dimentions.

http://www.autopano.net/forum/t9054-fabrication-d-un-support-pour-eos-50d
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by babgon » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:22 pm

Hansenlair wrote:regarde un peu le 400d doit avoir les mêmes dimentions.

http://www.autopano.net/forum/t9054-fabrication-d-un-support-pour-eos-50d

En effet, mais je bricole vraiment pas :-(

C'est pourquoi je me tourne plutôt faire du prêt (même si c'est plus cher :()
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by mediavets » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:40 pm

babgon wrote:
mediavets wrote:You can buy something like this - which is what I use, along with a 1/4 bolt, washer and wingnut to connect the camera:
http://www.pulsar-optical.co.uk/prod/ScopeTeknix-accessories/halfdovetail-bar/dovetailm.html

Hello,
I received a response from the seller (pulsar-optical.co.uk/). It does not ship to France.
You lived in the UK. Is it conceivable that you buy me and you
send it? (I'll pay by paypal for example?)

Otherwise, I'll get in France ...

If you still want one I could get one this week as they are based not too far from where I live.
Andrew Stephens
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by babgon » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:14 pm

mediavets wrote:If you still want one I could get one this week as they are based not too far from where I live.

A combien s'élève les frais d'expédition pour l'envoi en France ?
How much is shipping to send in France?
thanks
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by claudevh » Tue May 03, 2011 9:34 pm

@"babgon"

Bonsoir Beryl,
le Canon 400D ne nécessite pas de modification de la Merlin ! Sa "dimension A" est parfaite ... :)

Il faut en effet que tu trouve une queue d'aronde de la même épaisseur que la pièce en L d'origine.
Celle dont "mediavets" (Andrew) t'a parlé convient parfaitement, de plus elle n'est pas chère !

La solution alternative est de démonter la pièce en L, comme décrit dans le wiki "Modification de l' équerre de fixation":
http://www.autopano.net/wiki-fr/action/view/T%C3%AAte_astronomique_Multi-fonctions_Merlin_Adaptation_M%C3%A9canique#Modification_de_l.27.C3.A9querre_de_fixation
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by claudevh » Tue May 03, 2011 9:38 pm

Beryl,

Comme tu as un 70-200 mm tu fera un jour ou l'autre du gigapixels et tu auras besion de l' équerre en L pour le montage en horizontal !
La meilleure solution est donc celle proposée par "mediavets" !
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by babgon » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:39 pm

Bonjour

Merci claudevh.
J'ai donc acquis un rail droit :)
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