AlexandreJ wrote:You are crazy. This tool is going to be the swiss army panorama head tool.
Joke apart, I like this idea.
fma38 wrote:Ok, it's time to think about this feature. The idea is to implement something simple for the release 1.6; complete timelapse features will be for the v2.
For now, I propose to add a timer, to start a pano at a specified time (several shooting times could be defined), and an intervalometer, to shoot a pano every x hour/minuture/second.
fma38 wrote:How do you want it implemented? Where do you want to define it in the GUI?
mediavets wrote:Are these two separate functions or can they be rolled into one?
One might want to auto start the Intervalometer in which case that involves the Timer function. OTOH you might want to shoot at irregular intervals at specific times and that would need the ability to set specific times for shoots in the Timer.
Hmm....I need to think through some of the more likely scenarios and see how they 'map' to Timer and Intervalometer.
I would prefer that we don't make these things more complicated than we need.
First thoughts are to keep the settings for Timers and Intervalometer in new tabs in Configure and then provide check boxes to turn them on/off in the Shooting tab of Configure?
Then we need some indicators and some feedback displayed in the Shooting window. Something to indicate that these functions are on and perhaps some indication of when last shot was taken or when next shot will be taken (like a countdown)?
Problem with that sort of running feedback is that I guess it will use a lot more battery power?
In any event we are going to run in power issues - and storage - when using these functions espscially in relying on battery power.
How many cameras will remain powered up for long periods unless supplied with power from external power sources?
How long will a Nokia Tablet run Paywizard with Intervalometer and/or Timer active before batteries are exhausted?
How many shots can be accommodated on removable storage on the camera?
AlexandreJ wrote:You are crazy. This tool is going to be the swiss army panorama head tool.
fma38 wrote:mediavets wrote:Are these two separate functions or can they be rolled into one?
One might want to auto start the Intervalometer in which case that involves the Timer function. OTOH you might want to shoot at irregular intervals at specific times and that would need the ability to set specific times for shoots in the Timer.
Hmm....I need to think through some of the more likely scenarios and see how they 'map' to Timer and Intervalometer.
I would prefer that we don't make these things more complicated than we need.
I agree. I think I will first implements the intervalometer. Then add the timer, as exclusive, then mix bothFirst thoughts are to keep the settings for Timers and Intervalometer in new tabs in Configure and then provide check boxes to turn them on/off in the Shooting tab of Configure?
This is a solution. But do we need to save such settings? The other way is to open a special dialog from the shooting dialog, and enter values there. They will be saved as long as you don't close the app, as for title/gps/comment data when you activate the data file.Then we need some indicators and some feedback displayed in the Shooting window. Something to indicate that these functions are on and perhaps some indication of when last shot was taken or when next shot will be taken (like a countdown)?
Good idea.
fma38 wrote:Sounds good to me. But I wonder if the configure dialog is the right place to put settings... Why not just opening the corresponding dialogs when you select these features from the shooting dialog? I don't see any advantage to save such settings, as the start time will change in mostcases, and giving a new delay and number of shooting does not takes much time (and will also change very often).
fma38 wrote:I agree we need consistenty in the interface. On the other hand, I already use such popup dialog when activating a flag, for the data file (title/gps/comment).
fma38 wrote:As we need to add a switch for time/intervalometer, opening a dialog when you activate it does no mess up the GUI.
fma38 wrote:Moving some of the settings to the shooting dialog is also a good idea, but as you say, this *will* mess up the GUI, as we will need another button or so.
fma38 wrote:And in fact, even if parameters are out of the configuration dialog, they can be saved
fma38 wrote:I already use such popup dialog when activating a flag, for the data file (title/gps/comment).
mediavets wrote:fma38 wrote:I already use such popup dialog when activating a flag, for the data file (title/gps/comment).
A separate issue relating to this pop-up.
When selecting Enable data file the first time (or after previously deselecting it) it pops-up, or if that selection is already in effect it pops-up when Shooting dialogue is opened.
However when shooting has finished for a pano the Shooting dialogue/window remains open and the user can select Start again and repeat the shoot - great feature - BUT if data file is already enabled it does not pop-up the title/GPS/comment box again - I think it should as presumably it will create a separate data file (or will this repeat shoot data be added to the previous shoot's data file)?
mediavets wrote:How about this 'middle way'?
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Clicking on the Timer icon or Intervalometer icon opens (pops-up) Configure dialogue/window with relevant Tab selected.
Data file title/GPS/comment could be handled in similar manner with tab for this in Configure, so that instead of current pop-up dialogue selecting checkbox in Shooting UIO would open the tab in Configure.
Likewise you could provide access from the Shooting diologue/window to other tabs in Configure from icons - think of them as 'shortcuts' - in the Shooting dialogue/window?
I think you could find space for them (new icons) in the area beneath the shooting sequence messages bar wher the 'Manual shooting' and 'Data file enable' checkboxes are, and these checkbox titles could be abbreviated to say 'Manual' and 'Data file' to make more space.
Whether data is saved or not for various ettings is for you to decide.
fma38 wrote:Shortcut to configure dialog is really a great idea! I'll dig that way to see where it leads us...
fma38 wrote:So, what to do if the interval is shorter than the shooting time?
fma38 wrote:This is not easy to estimate the shooting time, because the Merlin speed is not constant; depending of the angle to move, it does not accelerate at full speed... And there is also the pause problem...
So, what to do if the interval is shorter than the shooting time?
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