marzipano wrote:images below
marco.lanciani wrote:... and it looks like ghosting is not the only problem: i can see also halos around the trees and in the sky.
I do am interested to know about any solution/workflow on using large bracketed series of images in APG...
klausesser wrote:marco.lanciani wrote:... and it looks like ghosting is not the only problem: i can see also halos around the trees and in the sky.
I do am interested to know about any solution/workflow on using large bracketed series of images in APG...
I must confess to stopped processing stacks in APG. So i don´t know whether there is a satisfying way actually. I use to suggest processing bracketed series FIRST
using a dedicated app like Photomatix and THEN stitch them in APG.
best, Klaus
Twilight wrote:That's distressing to hear... I noticed the same thing. I upgraded from APP to APG for a number of reasons, but the exposure fusion feature was a main one.
I also shot a test pano some time ago and ran into the same problems with ghosting between bracketed shots of leaves...
I was wondering if blending in LR/Enfuse first then stitching in APG is a solution. Have to try that.
HansKeesom wrote:It's a nobrainer, anyone who has not tried it, should not complain ;-)
HansKeesom wrote:The fusion of APG works fine for general panoramas where bracketing is used to bridge the dynamic between dark and bright in most situations. However if you want to do more extreme HDR things, please use the specilised tools for these speciall situation.
HansKeesom wrote:What APG should add is an option to change the order in which things are processed. Now first everything is detected and at rendering time the fusion is done. The new option should be to first fuse a stack and then start detection and then later rendering.
Twilight wrote:HansKeesom wrote:What APG should add is an option to change the order in which things are processed. Now first everything is detected and at rendering time the fusion is done. The new option should be to first fuse a stack and then start detection and then later rendering.
Like an air conditioner/heater that works in all situations and doesn't require the windows be rolled down. Or up. Hans, you are a genius!
Lumpini Park, Bangkok, from the night before last. Processed both with EnfuseGUI and APG, then just APG. Still tweaking to see which I like better.
Jon
http://www.jonwitsell.com
HansKeesom wrote:Thanks Jon, over here we say "When things don't work the way they should, get things done the way they can" sometimes we add "......said the farmer and he placed his wife in front of the plough"........
marzipano wrote:Any shots outdoors can suffer from movement such as leaves, waves, clouds (and in my case ducks) in the intervals within each bracketed exposure. I often take such shots handheld as well (yes I know!) which introduces further problems using APG fusion
marzipano wrote:The problem is that APG does not appear to have any anti-ghosting correction to correct these problems with the bracketed images and the reason most people (like myself) tend to go for pre-processing with Photomatix is that it DOES have this (both manual and automatic) and in my experience it does the job pretty well
marzipano wrote:So I would say that Kolor need to incorporate a bracketed image anti-ghosting module in addition to the "normal" anti-ghosting for panorama overlap areas as part of the exposure fusion facility. I'm not sure where this would be placed, however but I guess the experts could solve that one !
klausesser wrote:To be honest: i don´t think it is the duty of a stitcher-application to do such things. It´s up to the photographer either to shoot brackets in a way there are no ghosts at all or to process ghosted brackets before stitching.
best, Klaus
marzipano wrote:I am going to have to find some way to sort out the problem of moving trees, clouds, waves etc etc and my powers of divine intervention don't extend that far
marzipano wrote:I either use 2 products like I (and it appears most other people) do now - in my case Photmatix + APG or eventually APG will be a one-stop shop for me and I will just use that.
I don't really see the difference with implementing alignment/anti-ghosting on bracketed sets (not currently in APG) to Alignment/anti-ghosting in overlapping pano images (in APG already). It's just all part of the software support to get to successful panorama-making
best
Martin
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