ame.mjs wrote:No problems with small pics (< 20 Mpix) but CS4/Neutralhazer crashes on bigger ones (I suspect RAM crash).
AlexandreJ wrote:We manage RAM inside neutralhazer in 2 different ways : on through Photoshop, and the rest through general memory manager.
Now, as it is really a huge mathematical algorithm, if you want to apply the effect on big images or panorama, you definitively need a 64bits OS and Photoshop.
It does work well even on gigapixels if you have the right computer configuration. It won't work on a modest machine with big images.
AlexandreJ wrote:For 20 MPix images, it should be mandatory. But you need to allocate carefully ressources on this setup.
Just for your information : a 20 MPix is 240 MB in RAM ( for quality we do every calculation in 32bits space, each pixel needs 12 bytes ). We need a 3x free space around that, meaning, you should have 720 MB free to treat this image.
So depending on photoshop undo level, cache size, other software launched, it could run or not depending on free RAM available.
One note : there is a real limit : you won't be able correct on a 32bits OS images bigger than 1 GB / 3 / 12 = 28 MPix. For that, you'll need 64bits OSes.
AlexandreJ wrote:We manage RAM inside neutralhazer in 2 different ways : on through Photoshop, and the rest through general memory manager.
Now, as it is really a huge mathematical algorithm, if you want to apply the effect on big images or panorama, you definitively need a 64bits OS and Photoshop.
It does work well even on gigapixels if you have the right computer configuration. It won't work on a modest machine with big images.
PeterE. wrote:AlexandreJ wrote:We manage RAM inside neutralhazer in 2 different ways : on through Photoshop, and the rest through general memory manager.
Now, as it is really a huge mathematical algorithm, if you want to apply the effect on big images or panorama, you definitively need a 64bits OS and Photoshop.
It does work well even on gigapixels if you have the right computer configuration. It won't work on a modest machine with big images.
Sorry, it does not work with CS5 on 64bit Win7 on a 7i with 8 GB Ram for a 7200 x 28400 px scanned picture. Is "the right confguration" a mainframe??? I really like the kolor programmes, but NH is a bit of a dissappointment with this memory problems. Make it slow with big files, that's o.k., but please make it work! I can render really big files with autopano on my machine, even big files made of big files, please make NH work!!!
Kind regards, Peter E.
klausesser wrote:ame.mjs wrote:No problems with small pics (< 20 Mpix) but CS4/Neutralhazer crashes on bigger ones (I suspect RAM crash).
Hi!
What does it mean: "on bigger pics"? HOW big? I guess NH should be used *before* stitiching. On the
camera-size images - not on the rendered panorama.
best, Klaus
gavinfarrell wrote:klausesser wrote:ame.mjs wrote:No problems with small pics (< 20 Mpix) but CS4/Neutralhazer crashes on bigger ones (I suspect RAM crash).
Hi!
What does it mean: "on bigger pics"? HOW big? I guess NH should be used *before* stitiching. On the
camera-size images - not on the rendered panorama.
best, Klaus
Hey Klaus,
NH analyzes the overall / final image to create a artificial depth map to make it's calculations so applying the filter to single images and then stitching the panorama later would not be using the filter correctly.
gavinfarrell wrote:I tried the de-haz inside Auto-Pano GIGA is looked terrible! It applied the filter to each image individually in the image set on the left column of the interface. When it stitched panorama together it looked like checkerboard quilt - Uck - terrible! Does anyone know if there a way to apply the filter inside AutoPano-Giga on the right column after the image control point have been calculated and the preview image is built? Klaus with my system I can move around a 30Gig .PSB file in Photoshop CS 6 no problem. Saving takes about 20 minutes that the only slow part. I have CS6 running on a SSD and I dedicate 15GB of RAM to it, I also have a RAID which I can go up to 600TB of scratch disk if I needed. My machine is a little older now it's the 2009 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon. Everything is running at 64 bit.
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