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PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:29 pm
by Rata
I am looking at my tour in the new PTV file and i got a little question about the multilayerd resolution.

As i enter a pano, the load bar seems to go wild.
Continously loading, loading the whole picture rather than what you see.
Loading "deeper" than it needs to for the level of zoom.
As i am working with 1,5 gigapixel images, it takes its toll.
It seems to be a lot harder on the computer than seeing it from web.

Now to try it on tablet and see it it manages.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:09 am
by benji33
Is autorotation lauch on the VR ?
Is it the same browser opened by Panotour Viewer that the default used normally (so html5 player or flash player can be launched depending of the browser).

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:59 am
by Rata
No autorotation on and yes, same program, firefox.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:11 am
by benji33
Is it possible to send me the ptv file for test by a service like wetransfer.com on contact@kolor.com for benjamin ?

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:17 am
by Rata
Shure thing.
ill try to get it over today.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:28 am
by Rata
lol Hit a snag.
Wetransfer is maxed at 2Gb. THe PTV is close to 3.
Working on uploading it to my server and ill see how that works out.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:42 am
by Rata
Phew. Dropsend could handle big files.
Its on its way in about an hour.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:28 pm
by Rata
Ive tested with another "big" tour.
The PTV file ended up at 3,9Gb and plays fine on the computer, but not able to open on tablet.
Getting error message "can not open"
Im running it on a new Galaxy tab S, so it should be new anough to run most things i think.
I have made single image test tours and getting them to run ok on the tab, so it is working in general.
But on larger tours it gives up.

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:19 pm
by benji33
Probably limited by the device due to the load of a big amount of data.
As Panotour Viewer is coded in 32 bits on Windows, the issue is possible also on desktop for huge tours (more than 3Gb in memory).

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:09 pm
by klausesser
Rata wrote:I am looking at my tour in the new PTV file and i got a little question about the multilayerd resolution.

As i enter a pano, the load bar seems to go wild.
Continously loading, loading the whole picture rather than what you see.
Loading "deeper" than it needs to for the level of zoom.
As i am working with 1,5 gigapixel images, it takes its toll.
It seems to be a lot harder on the computer than seeing it from web.

Now to try it on tablet and see it it manages.



Why do you use the PTV? Just start the html file - it opens the pano in your browser!

Klaus

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:25 am
by Rata
Heh. Ill let the devs answer that. They put it in. :p

And "just opening the html" does not quite work in offline mode. You need to run it through a local server to make it work. wich PTV sorta is.
Allthough, for the big tours, running a server on tablet and using the normal html files would possebly be the only solution for the big tours if there is a memory limit.

Unless you could find a way to spilt the ptv files for a max size.
Optional. Make the PTV handle HTML tours?

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:10 am
by klausesser
Rata wrote:Heh. Ill let the devs answer that. They put it in. :p

And "just opening the html" does not quite work in offline mode. You need to run it through a local server to make it work. wich PTV sorta is.
Allthough, for the big tours, running a server on tablet and using the normal html files would possebly be the only solution for the big tours if there is a memory limit.

Unless you could find a way to spilt the ptv files for a max size.
Optional. Make the PTV handle HTML tours?


Didn´t come really clear you´re talking about offline on other machines explicitly: "It seems to be a lot harder on the computer than seeing it from web."

Klaus

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:18 am
by mediavets
Rata wrote:Heh. Ill let the devs answer that. They put it in. :p

And "just opening the html" does not quite work in offline mode. You need to run it through a local server to make it work. wich PTV sorta is.
Allthough, for the big tours, running a server on tablet and using the normal html files would possebly be the only solution for the big tours if there is a memory limit.

Unless you could find a way to spilt the ptv files for a max size.
Optional. Make the PTV handle HTML tours?


A PTV file is basically a ZIP archive:

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ ... TV_file.3F

Re: PTV and multirez, How does that work?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:58 am
by klausesser
mediavets wrote:
Rata wrote:Heh. Ill let the devs answer that. They put it in. :p

And "just opening the html" does not quite work in offline mode. You need to run it through a local server to make it work. wich PTV sorta is.
Allthough, for the big tours, running a server on tablet and using the normal html files would possebly be the only solution for the big tours if there is a memory limit.

Unless you could find a way to spilt the ptv files for a max size.
Optional. Make the PTV handle HTML tours?


A PTV file is basically a ZIP archive:

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ ... TV_file.3F



You mean like a "HTMLBook" file? "HTMLBook" needs to download a complete tour as zipped folder onto an iPad and run the tour completely offline.
Of coursed it depends on how much RAM you have in the iPad related to the data-size of your tour. 32, 64 or 128GB are preferable with big data.

We installed "HTMLBooks" on our client´s iPads (90% of them use iPads) and they use the download-feature inside "HTMLBooks" for downloading the
zipped panofiles from our server to run them local on the iPads.

Regarding that i actually shoot almost all tours hires - 700MPx/1 to 7 GPx and sometimes up to 2 or 3GB on the server - the amount of data is somewhat big. But the iPads handle it flawlessly.

I definitely suggest to keep tours as compact as possible.

Klaus