Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

[Annis]

Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by Annis » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:18 pm

Hello all,

I'm creating this sticky to centralise information about the black preview bug, to hopefully find the cause, a possible workaround or at least a fix for the next version.

Instead of creating a separate topic, please post here with the following information:

Full computer configuration (OS + version, System, Video Card, etc...):
Current Graphic driver version and release date:
Have you tried previous driver versions (if yes, which):

If you resize the preview window by dragging the bottom left corner, does it show :

Software version(s) the issue is present in:
Have you tried previous versions (2.5.4 or 2.5.3):

What file format(s) are your affected scenes:
Are both image and video scenes affected:

Any additional feedback or comments you could provide would be very useful.

Thanks for reading!


Annis

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Current possible workarounds you can try:
- Resize the preview window by dragging the bottom left corner
- Using previous version 2.5.4 (if it works please specify which version works for you)
- Reverting to previous graphics driver version (if it works please specify which version works for you, what your driver is and what the release date for that driver is)

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Previous posts on this subject:

• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34695 [Solved - caused by accessing machine over an RDP connection]
• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34538
• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34478
• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34250
• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=33501
• - viewtopic.php?f=94&t=35220 [Solved - Latest Intel HD Graphics Card driver available dates back 2015, only solution is to use previous version]
• - viewtopic.php?f=92&t=35449 [Solved - Update to latest NVIDIA Graphics Card driver fixed issue[/list]

[anna.ziabka63]

Re: Black Preview issue

by anna.ziabka63 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:10 pm

Hello,
I reported this problem in September last year, I downloaded for evaluation the latest release of PanoTour Pro 2.5.5. and recently 2.5.6 but I can't upgrade from my old ver. 1.8.0. because I noticed a problem, there is NO PANORAMA PREVIEW (!!!). It is widely reported by other users at the forum and you haven't done anything about it yet ? this is a serious issue since I'm unable to adjust the start point of panorama. The preview window shows tools but the background is black - no panorama preview ?!
Please provide support for the problem. I expect a prompt fixing of this problem. Why ver. 2.5.4 works OK with panorama preview at my computer and the latest versions not ? You have well working engine of ver. 2.5.4 so why you don't use this one and just fix other bug you removed in following versions ?
Regards
Anna

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[anna.ziabka63]

Re: Black Preview issue

by anna.ziabka63 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:14 pm

By the way...I run WIN 10 64 bit and installed PanoTour Pro 64bit

Regards
Anna

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:27 am

I'm sorry you seem to have misunderstood the point of this sticky topic.
It is intended to collect a maximum amount of information about this bug precisely because we can not reproduce it or find it's cause. It does not in any way minimise the fact that this is an issue for many users. But without finding the cause, there can't be any fix.

Nevertheless, thank you for for the information on your computer, though you did not specify what your graphics card was and the driver version?

[johannesvictor]

Re: Black Preview issue

by johannesvictor » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:36 pm

This is program related,my pc hasn't had driver updates done unless it was done automatically

problem happen in 5.5.5 and now also 5.5.7 worked fine with 5.5.4 no updates done to graphics drivers

Windows 10 Pro 64bit
On Board Intel HD Graphics version 9.17.10.4229

Please advise as its hard to work like this

Thanks

Johann

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:42 pm

This is program related,my pc hasn't had driver updates done unless it was done automatically

problem happen in 5.5.5 and now also 5.5.7 worked fine with 5.5.4 no updates done to graphics drivers

Windows 10 Pro 64bit
On Board Intel HD Graphics version 9.17.10.4229

Please advise as its hard to work like this

The driver version you mention dates back to 2015. That is way too old to use the latest version of PTP, which requires the capabilities of current graphics cards and drivers.

In your case unless you can find or use a much more recent driver, your only solution would be to go back to the last version that worked for you.

[johannesvictor]

Re: Black Preview issue

by johannesvictor » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:05 pm

I can not go back i will lose all the capabilities of new version sure yours program are backward compatible ?

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:45 pm

There isn't much difference between 2.5.4 (which you said worked) and 2.5.7, mostly bug fixes and optimisation.

[johannesvictor]

Re: Black Preview issue

by johannesvictor » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:59 pm

how do i downgrade then ?

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:02 pm

If you can't update your driver (did you check Intels website though?), then download the software from this page: http://www.kolor.com/download-previous-versions/

[johannesvictor]

Re: Black Preview issue

by johannesvictor » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Thanks for all your help........ Yes i did check second generation intel cpu i5

Intel® HD Graphics 3000

Intel® HD Graphics Driver for Windows* 7/8-64-bit
Date: 05-Jun-2015 Version: 15.28.24.64.4229 (Latest) OS: Windows 7, 64-bit*, Windows 8, 64-bit*
Description: Downloads and installs the Intel® HD Graphics Driver versions 15.28.24.4229 and 15.28.24.64.4229 for Windows* 7 and Windows 8, 64-bit.

[bdd]

Re: Black Preview issue

by bdd » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:03 pm

To all who have this blac preview issue,

Can you check the following with last version of Panotour/Panotour Pro ?

1/ Open Panotour
2/ Add a scene
3/ Select it
4/ In the property tab, in the Preview area, try to drag to bottom right anchor that allows to resize the preview.

Is the preview still black after the resize ?

Gérald

[say]

Re: Black Preview issue

by say » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:00 pm

Has this bug been fixed? Ive just purchased the software and the preview is black for me, tried earlier versions and no change.

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:51 am

No, hence why this sticky is still here.

Have you tried the other questions on this topic?
Is your graphics driver up to date? What is the card and version/release date of the driver?
Did you try resizing the preview? viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34721#p196004

[mediapool]

Re: Black Preview issue

by mediapool » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Black Previw issue only on this PC when viewing this tour

http://www.vr-360grad.solutions/test/

This tour works fine on many other PCs or Mobile devices

PC
Windows 7 - 64bit
Graphicscard: Inter(R) GMA 4500

the PC is old but other Autopano Tour examples work normal.
Like this one
http://interaktywnapodroz.pl/sp17/index ... ml5=prefer

It works just fine. What am I doing wrong?

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview issue

by Annis » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:36 pm

Black Previw issue only on this PC when viewing this tour

http://www.vr-360grad.solutions/test/

This tour works fine on many other PCs or Mobile devices

PC
Windows 7 - 64bit
Graphicscard: Inter(R) GMA 4500

the PC is old but other Autopano Tour examples work normal.
Like this one
http://interaktywnapodroz.pl/sp17/index ... ml5=prefer

It works just fine. What am I doing wrong?

Er, this topic is about the preview window in the software, not previewing in the browser.
Are you saying that tour and only that one has the black preview issue? Or that you can't view it in a browser? If it's the 2nd case, please post a topic.

[mediapool]

Re: Black Preview issue

by mediapool » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:43 am

Hi Annis
Sry! Yes it was the second case.
We solved the problem.

Our Tour was a giant with about 4-5GB we reduced the images from arround 40MB to ~7MB and also the video.
After this we achieved to get a tour of about ~200MB
Then we were able to view the tour on this device, slow very slow but it worked!

We also used the possibilitie to make the video compatible by using --> Alternative Versions
http://www.kolor.com/wiki-en/action/vie ... deo_Scenes

[placesmobile]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by placesmobile » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:47 pm

Windows 10 64bit
Intel i7
16 GB Ram
DirectX 12
Latest Intel graphic diver installed
PanoTour Pro 2.5.8 (tried 2.5.5 as well)

Please advise on this bug - I have a lot of work I cannot complete due to this nasty bug.

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by Annis » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:32 am

2.5.4 is the version that was reported to not have the issue by some. Did you try that version?
Did you try the other questions asked in this thread? viewtopic.php?f=92&t=34721&p=200650#p196004

[placesmobile]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by placesmobile » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:00 pm

I'll give 2.5.4 a try. It is troubling when a software company views the solution to a bug is to use back-dated version.
Are the Kolor engineers actively working on an actual fix for this?
Yes, I tried everything else suggested in this thread.

[Annis]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by Annis » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:08 pm

Using 2.5.4 is not a solution, it's a workaround.

We have not managed to reproduce the issue or even find the cause of the issue, so until then, we can not provide a fix.

[placesmobile]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by placesmobile » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:16 pm

Thanks for the "workaround". Glad to be able to get back to working effectively. I hope your team can replicate the issue (bug) soon so those of us with the issue are not stuck in back-date version usage forever.

[elena8]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by elena8 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:07 pm

Still not working, there is no solution for the issue yet???
Elena

[benji33]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by benji33 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:05 pm

Hi Elena, Hi placemobile,

Is it an Intel GPU card ?
I yes, what is the model (for instance Intel HD Graphics 3000) and the drivers version ?
This is visible into the Device Manager for Windows OS.

Thanks.

[Dennisw]

Re: Black Preview in Scene Properties Issue

by Dennisw » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:27 pm

I have been getting the black preview pane, always, both before and after registering the Panotour Standard software. You asked for the following information about my setup (my responses below, in square brackets)

Full computer configuration (OS + version, System, Video Card, etc...)?:
[Dell Latitude e6420 laptop; Windows 7 Pro 64 bit; Intel Core i5-2250M @2.50GHz 2.50 GHz; 4.00 GHz RAM (3.88 GB useable); NVIDIA NVS 4200M]

Current Graphic driver version and release date?:
[10.18.13.6886 12-July 2016]

Have you tried previous driver versions (if yes, which)?:
[No]

If you resize the preview window by dragging the bottom left corner, does it show .:
[There is no handle in bottom left corner of Preview pane. But when I grab the bottom right corner I can only move up and down as there is no room on the right to make it wider and it will not move to the left]

Software version(s) the issue is present in?:
[2.5.9, 64 bits]

Have you tried previous versions (2.5.4 or 2.5.3)?:
[No - will they work on a project created in 2.5.9? Will they act as a registered version using my 2.5.9 registration key?]

What file format(s) are your affected scenes?:
[.jpg from Ricoh Theta SC, some after minor editing in Corel Paintshop]

Are both image and video scenes affected?:
[don’t know as I have not tried any video]