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The end of panorama creation for the rest of us?????

by jarane » Tue May 03, 2011 8:25 pm

Hi everyone,
I don't want to sound panicky but I just read this and completely freaked out!!!
http://ivrpa.org/patent

Does anyone know anything about it?

As always, thanks in advance,
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by klausesser » Tue May 03, 2011 8:54 pm

jarane wrote:Does anyone know anything about it?

Sounds like bullshit . . :cool: Thre were some companies who tried the trick before. They all failed. It´s obviously without any doubt the technique was used before 2001 - i used it in 1998 with Apples QTVR studio. And there were others too.
PanoTools were even earlier and Prof. Dersch was attacked by some crooked US company (wasn´t it iPix?) who wanted him ad the rest of the world to stop making panos . . :lol:
They don´t exist any more. I don´t know whether this sinister "patent" covers Europe?

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by AlexandreJ » Wed May 04, 2011 8:01 am

The business idea is simple, patent something or buy old patents, then sue big companies ...
This is bullshit because if they had any real justification, they would have sued google for streetview which is just the biggest panorama maker in the world.
Or they didn't because they fear that. So the guy behind that just try to intimidate some final customers to get some money. That's it.

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by Gordon » Wed May 04, 2011 12:18 pm

Sad that these patent trolls attempt to do something like this, makes me feel kind of illegal!!! to make panos.

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by wjh31 » Wed May 04, 2011 2:58 pm

Gordon wrote:makes me feel kind of illegal!!! to make panos.

That's why it feels so good. The thrill of underground panoramics!

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by klausesser » Wed May 04, 2011 3:11 pm

wjh31 wrote:That's why it feels so good. The thrill of underground panoramics!

:P:lol::cool: RIGHT!! :)

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by f7 » Wed May 04, 2011 4:35 pm

I suppose the American laws regarding Europe is another story.

In Europe I think you can not do a patent and therefore be considered a monopoly and limit technological development.

We'll be safe??

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by mediavets » Wed May 04, 2011 4:38 pm

There was some discussion of this patent issue on the Panoguide forum:

http://www.panoguide.com/forums/qna/9276/
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by GURL » Wed May 04, 2011 5:51 pm

A patent is granted by the patent office of a given country and valid only in this country.

A patent must be translated and resubmitted to the patent office of each of the countries where the patent owner want to use it and where the patent office will grant it or not depending on the rules of this particular country.

European countries agreed some years ago not to grant software patents.

There are particular problems in the USA:
- USPTO often fails to verify that a patent don't include claims included in previously granted patents (;) for example the IPIX patent in this case!)
- costs of patent litigation are on average in the order of a million dollars per case (so that only very large companies are able to defend themselves against abusive patents.)

More details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
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by jarane » Wed May 04, 2011 7:35 pm

GURL wrote:European countries agreed some years ago not to grant software patents.

Can I move to Europe then??? :lol:

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by GURL » Wed May 04, 2011 11:05 pm

jarane wrote:Can I move to Europe then??? :lol:

Imagine Apple sending e-mails to users of Samsung or Nokia smartphones and requiring a small amount of dollars from each of them to compensate for alleged patent infringements by said phones manufacturers...

I bet the lawyer who bought the patent would not spend a significant amount of time to locate his victims nor risk some money to sue them, but his brightest idea is to use the Internet to locate site owners and to send them emails at no cost.

;) I could hire you to shoot the panos under my name and the web-sites could be hosted in an European country but I'm afraid this would not help.
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by f7 » Thu May 05, 2011 9:49 am

If all this is simple,
Kolor set in, perhaps Panotour or Autopano patented?

do not you?, Europe can not be patented software, because then it would be a monopoly.
Allow a monopoly in the U.S.?
This must be an error or urban legend!
is totally subrrealista,

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ohh, sorry for my English St. google

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by Apapane » Thu May 05, 2011 8:20 pm

Patent, copyright, and trademark laws here in the U.S. are much to "loose". Some jerk actually got the copyright to "Happy Birthday" because it had never been in copyright, even though it has been in the Public domain for decades. Sports "stars", food companies, etc., have received copyright/trademarks for everyday language, too. All of these instances should have been rejected as frivolous attempts to cash in on common language.

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by Gordon » Thu May 05, 2011 9:45 pm

'I know the law': An international agreement states that no country may claim ownership of a planet or star, but it says nothing about individuals.

The document issued by the notary public declares Ms Duran to be the 'owner of the Sun, a star of spectral type G2, located in the centre of the solar system, located at an average distance from Earth of about 149,600,000 kilometers'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333776/Spanish-woman-Angeles-Duran-claims-owns-sun--plans-start-charging-ALL-users.html

She plans to charge for use of her Sun and wants to slap a fee on everyone who uses the sun and give half of the proceeds to the Spanish government - and 20 per cent to the nation's pension fund.

Well there it is.

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