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GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:05 pm

YAY!! At long last.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyFz_3VzkGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PygsKZXpYrI

The demo video to me looks better than any other so far.. Not much information but it won't be long..

This is really good news!!

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:56 am

Not much information... So lets analyse what little we have so far...

The colours are mostly beautiful.. =D =D =D =D =D
NO banding in the skies.. =D =D =D =D =D
NO Parallax issues.. =D =D =D =D =D
Sharp images.. =D =D =D =D =D
Some strange blending effects in some parts of the video.. Not sure if that is where the camera is attached.. Looks a bit yuck.. =D =D
There is a slight pimple on the Zenith but not always.. =D =D =D =D

Well, so far I am totally impressed!!.. :cool: I always say it how it is and how I feel about a product.. I really want to see more demo videos.. I want to read more about it for sure.. I want to play with one..!!!

The last I heard, there is a guy in Africa following a Lion, picking through its poo trying to find the GoPro Fusion the Lion ate.. :lol: :lol:

I would like to know if the GoPro Fusion can be attached to a Karma Drone and also to a GoPro Gimble???. Developing a 360 cameras is not an easy piece of engineering.. So many before have tried and failed in part or in total.. Some are OK'ish but many are expensive door stops... The KeyMission is a nice looking and a well made 360 camera, but the banding and parallax issues are terrible.. I told Nikon that during their pre-release and nothing has changed. So I will not buy one. The Samsung is not so nice either.. The Theta is OK'ish but the quality of video is not great..

Yesterday I viewed some content from the Nokia OZO.. The article stated that this camera was the best there is, and its a professional solution. Well, after viewing the demo video I can say, it's not.. It cost $40,000 US which is $53000 Aus.. You have to be either rich, stupid or desperate to pay out that kind of money, when the OMNI with GoPros is far better and cheaper.. But I do not like those kind of Rigs.. But I would still like to play with one..

I am really looking forward to reading and hearing about other peoples experiences in using this new GoPro Fusion camera.. If you are one of those lucky people chosen to take part in their pre release, please share your experiences and videos..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:31 am

Heya..

Well.. A little more information has been released.. I sure hope GoPro know what they are doing.. To me, its a classic "Ugly Box." Looks like one of those old fashioned Polaroid box cameras... https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/08/gop ... ands-on/#/ If GoPro does not get this camera right, it might be the end of them..

Surely GoPro could have done better than this.. I sure hope the media output makes up for their yuck design.. What a disappointment..!! ARE YOU LISTENING GOPRO.. Its "UGLY!!".. How can you launch it with all the fanfare and fireworks looking like this.. Its not cool, it does not have the "I WANT ONE!!" appeal.. To be honest I do not even want to touch one.. My door stop or the box my shoes came in are better designed..

Well, I guess if the media output is awesome the yuck design can be forgiven.. or can it.. Only time will tell... To me it certainly does not have the "Buy Me", I Want One" or "Wow" appeal.. Rather it has the Oh Man.. is that it..! Oh Hum.. :rolleyes:

Well, I can only hope my input sparks GoPro into changing the "Ugly Box" into an "Awesome Box"... I can only hope!! At the moment its certainly not a cool looking gadget..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:31 am

Still no real details on the new GoPro Fusion.. There are a few websites with images of the unit.. I sure hope GoPro know what they are doing.. So much depends on this camera. It cannot be another Karma.. That would be a disaster.. One thing would be certain, the software support will be amazing since the camera will have Kolor inside.. As for the Box... Well, they will not win any design awards.. http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/14131 ... or/gallery

I can understand the offset lenses, I can understand the flatness of the unit to bring the lenses closer together.. but I do not get the cheapness look of it.. For a full pro 360 action camera, its not cool or rugged looking..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by itsrichphoto » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:22 am

Notice no response from kolor/gopro. Not giving anything away. Where did the product shots come from? Could be fake or just a working prototype body. Are the lenses offset?

Perhaps the new cam will include avp?

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:03 am

Its most defiantly a real product.. However GoPro/Kolor are not giving anything away with this new camera, which in many ways is stilly since they have launched snippets of the product.. If it all takes too long it makes GoPro look like they do not know what they are doing, and often I feel this is the case. The first images suggested it would look cool and sexy but the new images I posted yesterday suggest otherwise.. I can only assume its a working prototype.. The case needs more Bling and Wow and "I want one!" factor..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by itsrichphoto » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:25 pm

Here is the big competition garmin virb 360 https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/562010

The stabilisation and gps and accelerometer online stats is a big pull. The sample videos look pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rExCvUi ... 93&index=1 However are not straight from camera and are in crowd pleasing settings, rather than challenging lighting.

I think I would prefer 4k 60fps more than higher resolution. The option to shoot raw would be great too as having manual exposure.

Another strong competitor is the kodak orbit http://360rumors.com/2017/06/kodak-pixp ... mples.html

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:01 am

Hi.. I read a while back about the Garmin... I have not seen this camera... The quality of the image and colours are really nice, however there are huge parallax issues.. It looks an awesome camera... It has the "I want to touch it" look about it...

I spent a long time chatting a Kodak person. He did not seem to understand what parallax was.. It looks OK but the media output is horrible.. I would rather have the Nikon over this camera.

I really love the look of the Nikon cameras but hate the video quality. That is not very good at all.. I tried to tell them this on their feed-back page they had before it was launched but any negativity was removed... They only wanted nice things said about it.. Consequently the post ended... :rolleyes: They failed to listen so they failed to sell the qualities they were expecting.. To me it a beautiful looking door stop..

The media I have seen so far from the GoPro Fusion has been good to excellent. I noticed some issues with the latest videos and I am hoping that will be fixed.. If GoPro listen to feedback, meaning they will look at their Ugly Box and turn it into a Beautiful Box, and the media is great, they will be the benchmark in this media for all others to rise up to.. They cannot afford to get it wrong..

There are others lapping at GoPro's door and some are good options.. Its not as if GoPro are on their own in this.. To me, they have been very slow in getting their camera into the market.. Its allowed others to jump in.. They probably spent to much time and resources on a Drone when there are already great affordable drones on the market, when there is NOT a really great 360 Video Camera and there are no real great affordable options for a 360 camera.. GoPro should have gone all out with this...

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:22 am

After GoPro Fusion posted some 360 video from Africa, the first thing I noticed was that the colours and parallax are great.. I have just checked out the KeyMission again.. The quality of video is just terrible.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kodFd-Ey3_Y So many issues.. But the camera looks awesome.. GoPro needs to take a page out of Nikons design book.. Their biggest failing is their case designs. If GoPro sack their designer it would be a step in the right direction..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:36 am

I wonder why this image suggest that the GoPro Fusion will look quite nice yet the actual product in a persons hand looks so yuck... Perhaps this image is a rendered 3D graphic... :rolleyes:

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:10 am

A little bit more info here.. In all honestly the media output looks awesome.. The best I have seen.. Its sharp, colourful and seems to have no parallax issues, which is a big issue with most other 360 video cameras. No surprise really since it has Kolor inside..

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/141320- ... now-so-far

As for the case, the box.. Oh hum .. I hate it.. :rolleyes: Its just not cool looking.. The bits on the side do not seem to match either.. Even so, I would still love to test this camera out..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:25 pm

Heya...

Still no details about the new GoPro Fusion. Really do not know why it was announced so soon.. Its like playing games..

I am hopeful it has a few needed features...

With single panos images...
WiFi Remote calibration via mobile with all manual and auto settings via live view
Timer
Bracketed shots with EVs from .5 to 2, with increments of .5 and able to capture at least 5 shots...

With 360 video..
Same with Wifi calibrations via mobile device..
Timelaps would be nice..
Vibration reduction..
Water resistant or even water proof for underwater 360 video.. Soooo cool..

I am sure others would have their needs.. Oh, and an awesome case and not an ugly box.. one that looks the part for a 360 Action Camera.. A case that becomes a talking point where you just want to keep touching it.. and playing with it... A sexy awesome camera that delivers great 360 media.. =D Certainly not a case which fails in this area and never wins and design prizes for innovation.. :rolleyes:

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:47 am

Hi... Still hanging out for news on the GoPro Fusion but it seems Garmin are way ahead of GoPro.. We have had a Garmin GPS for years, its really beautifully made.. With there 360 cam, there is not much to dislike about it.. I like the rugged case and the cold interface will appeal to many.. It has internal stabilising which I really love.. The price is just about there.. I personally cannot afford to buy one but its still affordable.. There are statements with a comparison to the GoPro camera in the first url.. Even thought the video seems to be quite good, I feel the GoPro demo videos are still a bit more vibrant.. Better colour.. But only time will tell...

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/05/gar ... eview.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtKU35khmo

https://buy.garmin.com/en-AU/AU/p/562010

Its all getting very very interesting and exciting.. I sure hope that GoPro Fusion case we have seen is not the final product.. Oh please don't let it be.. Lets hope GoPro surprise use all.. In the mean time, Garmin are moving forward with a very nice product.. Seems GoPro have some catching up to do...

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:29 am

This video link is a great insight into the 360 cameras options.. I really love the Facebook cameras but I only have one kidney to sell.. emmm.. I think I will keep it.. :lol: This video review is useful viewing to gain a feel for pricing and options offered by many camera mobs. GoPro have an oppertunity to produce the very best 360 cameras ever made... Failure is not an option.. I would agree with the reviews that the quality of video the the Fusion captured in the demos is just about flawless. Well that is Kolor inside the box.. GoPro needs to do their bit in design and features offered..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvfXdbdKpng

The 360 video world is really beginning to boom... I sure hope GoPro are viewing some of these YouTube reviews..

I am wondering if the Garmin video footage will work with Kolor software.. I have asked Garmin..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:00 am

.... and a little more. GoPro are being very secretive about their new camera.

This 360 video demo is really very good. Not perfect but still very good... I just wonder how much post editing GoPro/Kolor have done.. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ejfmDpM_Hs

I really love this 360 media output, its very passable and I feel its the best there is so far from another other units of this kind but sorry, I really do not like the box. The images of the Fusion I have seen in real life hand makes it look cheap. This image is better but its either a rendered CAD or a photoshop version.. https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/11/gop ... -partners/ Even so, its still ugly..

There is a little ghosting and parallax in small parts of the video with some blurring too but still very passable. At high pixels its very very good.. But hard to view using our internet. The quality of the colour is awesome.. Sharpness could be a little better but still good.. I hope it will be possible to capture a single still pano in poor lighting, unless it can capture bracketed still shots.. Also RAW images.. Then who cares what it looks like :lol:

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 am

Getting closer to know more about the GoPro Fusion =D =D =D .. Oh please do not let it be that ugly grey plastic box.. :rolleyes: It seems that only 10 companies have been chosen to road test the new Fusion Camera.. I guess the other 20,000 people are on their mailing list.. :rolleyes: https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/11/gopro ... al-camera/

I guess at the end of the day, the output media is the important feature.. With the KeyMission and Garmin VIRB, they might looks quite cute and cool but the output media is less then good.. Appearance is not everything.. The most important feature is the final media output.. I really look forward to hearing about the features..

With the new Fusion Camera, GoPro are standing on the edge of a cliff.. Either they fall off the edge or fly.. I sure hope they fly since that will secure Kolor. We can call it the Flying Ugly Box.. hahahah... But who knows, GoPro have a habit of surprising.. The camera casing might look awesome in the end.. and a bit more rugged than the images we have seen so far.. like a real 360 Action Cam should look like..

I wonder if this will mark the end of the Rigs.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:38 am

Hey.... It might be an ugly looking camera but the final media is just awesome.. I see a little bit of flickering in the video but that might be YouTube.. The colour and blending are just amazing.. Beautiful in fact.... I feel the best asset GoPro have is Kolor.. =D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZGEOxSmns

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by Destiny » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:24 pm

Kodak have launched their 4K 360 camera. Really terrible media quality. Zoom in on the boats and mans right hand and more.. :rolleyes: OK looking design camera but oh hum.. Yuck quality.. I will give that media a ONE STARE.. Even the images on their website are blurry.. It cost $550 for a quite a big kit, and a free tee shirt.. Nothing like using a body to advertise..

https://kodakpixpro.com/Americas/camera ... -334827129

https://store.mypixpro.com/vip-orbit360 ... ellitepack

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:45 am

I wonder if the chosen companies have received their GoPro Fusion camera.. I am looking forward to seeing some footage...

In the past I have seen the Fly footage and to be honest, its really very good, but it has a big nadir footprint.. Fly have a few new cameras coming soon.. The double ended option looks great.. I would love to see some footage from this setup.. Its a very neat setup...

http://www.threesixtycameras.com/360fly ... ming-soon/

GoPro needs to get a move on... There seems to be many new cameras coming onto the market. Some cheap but like the FaceBook and others, far too expensive for most people. It does look an awesome camera though..

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by GUY LEFEVRE » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:14 am

I do not speak English well
In order not to have to translate the whole subject, can you tell me if we can already get the gopro fusion?

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Annis » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:06 am

GUY LEFEVRE wrote:I do not speak English well
In order not to have to translate the whole subject, can you tell me if we can already get the gopro fusion?

GoPro Fusion isn't out yet.

Right now GoPro is running a pilot program for content creators and running a daily giveaway program in select countries until September 27th (more info here: https://gopro.com/fusion ) which you may be interested in participating in.

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:14 am

Yes.. A BIG give away but GoPro does not like Australia!!! We are not on the list... =( =( =( :p :p :p :O :O

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by Destiny » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:46 am

I found a 3D model on GrabCAD, the GoPro Fusion might look something like this.. I rendered it in 360...

https://grabcad.com/library/gopro-fusion-360-1

http://www.destinyvirtualtours.com/GoPr ... usion.html

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by klausesser » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:12 pm

Didn´t you see this one??
http://www.computerbild.de/artikel/avf- ... 47495.html

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Re: GoPro FUSION 360 :)

by klausesser » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:21 pm

estimated price of 500-600€ seems very low to mee . . .

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