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Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:41 pm
by jochenfroehlich
i'm shooting with a nodalninja 4.

The head gives me exact degrees in the X and Y axis.

So a plugin where I'm able to enter the values like degrees for each column and row would be great.

Thanks for the great product.

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:21 pm
by mediavets
jochenfroehlich wrote:i'm shooting with a nodalninja 4.

The head gives me exact degrees in the X and Y axis.

So a plugin where I'm able to enter the values like degrees for each column and row would be great.

Thanks for the great product.


You could create a Papywizard compatible XML file?

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:18 am
by jochenfroehlich
How can this file be created?

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:28 am
by mediavets
jochenfroehlich wrote:How can this file be created?


It depends on whether you are shooting spherical panos (panos with a panoFOV of 360 on the H axis) or partial panos (panos with a panoFOV of less than 360 on the H axis).

If you are shooting a partial pano regular matrix/grid of images you could try using the Gigapan Import wizard.

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I am presuming that you are trying to get better placement of 'featureless' images - such as plain blue sky images?

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:35 am
by jochenfroehlich
I'm doing panos with a panoFOV of 360 on the H axis

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:39 am
by mediavets
jochenfroehlich wrote:I'm doing panos with a panoFOV of 360 on the H axis

And what sort of VFOV?

If 180 VFOV it is generally recommended to reduce the number of images per row as you approach the zenith and nadir to avoid excessive overlapping that will occur if you instead shoot a regular grid/matrix.

What camera/lens setup are you using?

What sort of shooting pattern are you using?

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:41 am
by jochenfroehlich
i'm shooting 7 rows with +/- 0 15 30 45 degrees

I use a 50mm lens with a crop factor of 1.5

shooting pattern is 30x7

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:23 pm
by mediavets
jochenfroehlich wrote:i'm shooting 7 rows with +/- 0 15 30 45 degrees

I use a 50mm lens with a crop factor of 1.5

shooting pattern is 30x7


It's not at optimal pattern -too many images in rows approaching zenith an nadir, but simpler to follow with a manual head - and a lot of images to shoot with a manaul head, it would be much easier with a robotic head...but, anyway...

If you have Windows PC to hand, download Papywizard, software for controlling a Merlin mount as a robotic pano head, from here, choosing the development version for Windows:
http://www.papywizard.org/wiki/Download

Install the program and use it in Simulation mode (plugins set to simulation) and configure for your lens and camera, then 'shoot' a 30 x7 matrix in simulation mode making sure the shooting pattern/order matches how you shoot with your NN4, to generate a Papywizard XML data file.

Then edit that XML data file using any text editor - Notepad++ is nice for Windows - to change the coordinates of each shooting position to match this you use with you manual head, the format of the file will be obvious to you. You need only do this once, then you can use that edited file every time you shoot a similar pattern in future.

Then you can use that edited XML file with the APP/APG Papywizard Import wizard to help APP/APG place 'featureless' images that otherwise get left out of the stitch.

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:16 am
by slipstick
Wouldn't it be easier to use APG to get a good stitch on a pano (something indoors with lots of texture to get good stitching - no blank walls), then "Export to Papywizard" to create the XML? That's how I do it, and it seems to work.

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:05 am
by mattspace
Hi Joe

This might be of help - papywizard XML files for a similar situation to the one you're in - I'm shooting 7 row (plus zenith and nadir) 60mm on a full frame camera (zenith's are at +85 degrees to stop the camera flipping them to landscape)

With Nadir
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rr0synyypied ... r.xml?dl=0

Without Nadir
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjg912wnbmoqf ... r.xml?dl=0

The format's pretty easy to figure out.

Re: Plugin for manual heads

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:36 pm
by slipstick
mattspace wrote:The format's pretty easy to figure out.

So it is - never looked at the file before. Now I can just build my own - thanks.