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Help find the right (hot) spot ;)

by Octavias » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:33 pm

Good day guys.

I have a questions related to hot spots and different ways of implementing them in PTP 1.8.

Me and my partner Alex have completed a new tour which most of you looked at in this post: http://www.kolor.com/forum/t18009-evr-nyc-nightclub-tour-nyc

Now the idea is to implement pictures of interior and food photography that we shot there. The problem is the standard icons don't' cut it for us and putting a simple magnifying glass is a bit cheese.

We found this tour and are wondering if anyone knows how these guys came up with this hot spot: http://www.lcp360.com/index.php/component/k2/item/36-muvico-thousand-oaks-14

Thanks in advance for all your help!

P.S. other suggestions on different hot spots we can use are welcome as well!

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- ACMB Photography
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by mosleyhgp » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:06 pm

They obviously spent all of their time on navigation because they didn't spend any of it learning how to close (or even cover) the Nadirs! :rolleyes:

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by klausesser » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:25 pm

mosleyhgp wrote:They obviously spent all of their time on navigation because they didn't spend any of it learning how to close (or even cover) the Nadirs! :rolleyes:

:cool: right! MUCH too much gimmicking. I refuse to look at this kind of panos - harms my eyes, sorry . . ;):cool:

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by Octavias » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:47 am

Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Order! lol

you guys are feisty tonight. Well i wanted to find out about the hotspots and any suggestions, NOT their pano quality, which I do agree is lacking.

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by Christian Stüben » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:29 am

mosleyhgp wrote:They obviously spent all of their time on navigation because they didn't spend any of it learning how to close (or even cover) the Nadirs! :rolleyes:

to Mosley and Klaus ... yes, you are right, error-free stitching and good nadir are important. But they are not the pano itself.

In another forum, far away in another galaxy, there has been a recent thread about google streetview panoramas. The first few postings all have sayd something like "ugly ugly ugly, a shame for pano fotographers". See Burj Khalifa below. But then a first poster sayd he has asked one of his customers "important is that you can look around and see everything". So i am sure most people want "too look around" and have fun. And the hotspots in the given example are fun. Pure fun.

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Burj Khalifa:
http://www.google.ae/intl/en/help/maps/streetview/gallery/burj-khalifa/
Yes, this is really a shame. I never thought that the management of the Burj Khalifa would have accepted something like this.
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by Artisan S. » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:03 pm

About the hotspot:

Probably a script in .xml to produce it (stepping though a set different pictures (some alpha layered) on a on mouse over event, tweening them into and out off visibility) not to hard to code for a good .xml krpano coder I guess, creative enough. I would even say nicely done but (I have to agree with Klaus) all those hoops and wistles make me grab my Ibuprophen capsules (splitting headache). By the way the compas elements is also nicely done (very creative use of a radar map funtionality and some clever alpha layering of components). But all of it put together is to much of a good thing.

About the Burj:

A 5 star hotel (or 7 whatever the effendi of the burj would like) needs 2 things....a great kitchen (check) and a great VR tour (not check). But hey the Burj has company, look at the site of the Loyd hotel in Amsterdam. Same Google quality. I think quality VR people will need to get used to the fact that the magic of their craft is being diluted by inferiour workmanship (as has every craftsman the past 24 years when the neocons abolished workmanship for globalised and overmanaged ####).

Greets, Ed.
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by Octavias » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:48 pm

Artisan S. wrote:About the hotspot:

Probably a script in .xml to produce it (stepping though a set different pictures (some alpha layered) on a on mouse over event, tweening them into and out off visibility) not to hard to code for a good .xml krpano coder I guess, creative enough. I would even say nicely done but (I have to agree with Klaus) all those hoops and wistles make me grab my Ibuprophen capsules (splitting headache). By the way the compas elements is also nicely done (very creative use of a radar map funtionality and some clever alpha layering of components). But all of it put together is to much of a good thing.

About the Burj:

A 5 star hotel (or 7 whatever the effendi of the burj would like) needs 2 things....a great kitchen (check) and a great VR tour (not check). But hey the Burj has company, look at the site of the Loyd hotel in Amsterdam. Same Google quality. I think quality VR people will need to get used to the fact that the magic of their craft is being diluted by inferiour workmanship (as has every craftsman the past 24 years when the neocons abolished workmanship for globalised and overmanaged ####).

Greets, Ed.

Thank for the input Artisan,

I agree, for a good coder its easy enough,i guess I am gonna have to find one if I want those options :) but I rather wait for PTP to be finally released. I am beta tester there and there is PLENTY of options for hot spots there. but i current;y have 3 projects that I am working on and also want to delver a good product to these guys as well.

on a side note, I saw that you're using the Panosaurus 2.0 I also use that head with a Samyang 8mm. I wanted to ask your professional opinion on this lens. I have had much trouble figuring out the NPP on the lens and this head and also in PtGUI since my camera doesn't communicate with my lens. DO you have any good suggestions about the set up. Also I am getting a NIkon10.5MM today to try it out for a change.

Regards,

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by klausesser » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:06 pm

Christian Stüben wrote:to Mosley and Klaus ... yes, you are right, error-free stitching and good nadir are important. But they are not the pano itself.

Stitch-errors and the Nadir was not what i meant. I meant the appearance overflown with gimmicks.
It´s an aesthetical issue - and i just spoke out my very personal first impression viewing the site. :cool:

A saying tells us: "not everything which is possible to do must be done" . . .

best, Klaus

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by Destiny » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:46 am

Actually, If thought those hotspot looked really cool, I will play with it.... I feel there is a lot of merit in this kind of media....



I just loved the movie.. very very cool.. I can make the interactive hotspots quit easily, but I do not know how link them to a compass navigation like in this pano since its a widget.. I have gained a few cool ideas from this.. Well done Max in showing it.. If you want just the hotspots I will make up a demo for you and then you can make your own.... ;)

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by Octavias » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:40 pm

Hey Destiny.

I would love for you to show me a demo one so i can make my own later! I think they are cool and with a little tweaking can look really grand on some of our panos. The widget is not as important to me but i did see that you figured out how to put a compass in your panos before so i might even use that!

Thanks a lot in advance. :)

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