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Dumb questions regarding videos

by flowmotion » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:15 pm

Hello guys,

me again, asking another dump question or 2.

Well - i ´d like to present some little video snippets in the panorama explaining the functionality of the kitchens i photographed.
I once did it with photos in one of the older versions - there opened a "window" in the panorama and screened a picture. No idea how that was done - Now i tried to do the same with a youtube video or a video file from my HDD -

I can not get it work. I only get failures, or i even can´t reach the pano with that hotspot, or the tour freezes.

Can you please help some one who seems to be too stupid for this`?

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by Destiny » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:54 pm

Hi.. Not stupid, since its quite complicated..

Unless you have coding skills, my suggestion would be to place a url on a hotspot to open a YouTube video web site....

I put a YouTube vid thumb set on this Pano.. Hotspot on the right side of the door.. You need to close the vid before opening the next..

http://members.westnet.com.au/dps/YouTube/WinnebagoDemoTest.html

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by flowmotion » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:00 pm

Hi Destiny,

thanks for fast responding. Well that´s not exactly what i meant. My "dream" would be to have a little kind of - lightbox (?) - means pano is getting darker and a small frame comes up where the video is screened inside.
I could google for lightbox but really have no Idea what the guys are trying to tell me in this posts. :D

But if it would be possible to customize your solutio in height, color and these things it could be an option.

What sucks most is, that i had done it before via images. And i am sure we did it with an old PTP Version, but i have no idea how... you can see here:

http://textilfotografie.de/vr_tour_flowmotion/flowmotion.html

go to the 2nd pano and click on one of the images at the wall....


I meant that needs to work with videos also - doesn´t it?

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by mediavets » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:04 pm

flowmotion wrote:Hello guys,

me again, asking another dump question or 2.

Well - i ´d like to present some little video snippets in the panorama explaining the functionality of the kitchens i photographed.
I once did it with photos in one of the older versions - there opened a "window" in the panorama and screened a picture. No idea how that was done - Now i tried to do the same with a youtube video or a video file from my HDD -

I can not get it work. I only get failures, or i even can´t reach the pano with that hotspot, or the tour freezes.

Can you please help some one who seems to be too stupid for this`?

Can I safely assume you have Panotour Pro? You need Pro to use audio and video content in a tour.

Also be aware that video is not supported in iDevice compatible tours at the moment; only for Flash-enabled platforms..

Forget using a YouTube video it's too tricky for you to implement with V1.8; requires a lot of handcoding and special knowldge.

So use a video file from local HDD.

You can Link it from a Point, Polygon or Rectangular spot, as a Link/Object when it will 'pop-up' when the hotspot is clicked; screenshot 1.

Or, Embed it in the pano scene on a Rectangular hotspot, as the Display/Object; Typically used to place video on a TV screen in a pano scene - screenshot 2.




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by flowmotion » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:30 pm

Hi - yes - i definitely use ptp

ok, i think i´ll try that. What happens, when s.b. enters with an i - device? Is it just whiped away, or crashes the pano?

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by flowmotion » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:43 pm

Oh man - it works... that is awesome.
I did exactly the same before and it did not work. I guess the video file was corrupt :=)

Ok - now we only have the i device question, that hast to be cleared. I mean, it would be wondergreat if we could get it running on he ipad.
If we export this videofile as a mp4 - might that work?

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by Destiny » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:40 pm

:rolleyes: .... but thats what it is.. and it also works on iDevices.. DId you click on the right hotspot at the front of the RV...??
Works just as well with a single YouTube.. I just put multiple thumbs to avoid adding multiple hotspots.

Destiny..

flowmotion wrote:Hi Destiny,

thanks for fast responding. Well that´s not exactly what i meant. My "dream" would be to have a little kind of - lightbox (?) - means pano is getting darker and a small frame comes up where the video is screened inside.
I could google for lightbox but really have no Idea what the guys are trying to tell me in this posts. :D

But if it would be possible to customize your solutio in height, color and these things it could be an option.

What sucks most is, that i had done it before via images. And i am sure we did it with an old PTP Version, but i have no idea how... you can see here:

http://textilfotografie.de/vr_tour_flowmotion/flowmotion.html

go to the 2nd pano and click on one of the images at the wall....


I meant that needs to work with videos also - doesn´t it?
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by flowmotion » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:16 am

did not get your last post.... sorry.

/DId you click on the right hotspot at the front of the RV...??
Works just as well with a single YouTube.. I just put multiple thumbs to avoid adding multiple hotspots. )

can you explain for a non native speaker?

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by Destiny » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:24 am



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by mediavets » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:57 am


That may not be quite what the OP is looking for; or is it and your pano in the background is just completely obscured?

What he wants is:

"My "dream" would be to have a little kind of - lightbox (?) - means pano is getting darker and a small frame comes up where the video is screened inside. "
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by leifs » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:33 am

some day I will try to integrate video into my panos
then I would like to do it like this :)
http://www.hdrl.ru/files/360/Dynaudio/virtualtour.html

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by mediavets » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:47 am

leifs wrote:some day I will try to integrate video into my panos
then I would like to do it like this :)
http://www.hdrl.ru/files/360/Dynaudio/virtualtour.html

leifs

To display a video file you have on local disk - not live streaming video or on-demand Web video such as YouTube - that's easy.

You just draw a Rectangular hotspot and specify the video file as the hotspot Display/Object.


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by flowmotion » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:48 am

that is sooooo cool -
does it work on mobile devices?

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by Gund » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:39 am

http://www.hdrl.ru/files/360/Dynaudio/virtualtour.html
They have a nice video inside called "Gays of our city" in which they explain how some kind of an electric device works - where is the meaning?

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by lozanno » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:37 am

Hi fellows. To use a video file as an object using the display option. Must be a specific format?
Question because I have tried .mov, .mpeg and nothing show up in the VR. Also the video files are located in the ptp build folder.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

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by mediavets » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:38 am

lozanno wrote:Hi fellows. To use a video file as an object using the display option. Must be a specific format?
Question because I have tried .mov, .mpeg and nothing show up in the VR.

The supported video formats are shown when you select the video file - see screenshot.

But this could be a CODEC issue I suppose; what OS are you using and how are you creating the video.

Which version of PTP 1.8 are you using and with which OS?

Are you selecting the video file as a Link/Object or a Display/Object?

And what OS and browser are you using to view the tour?

Are you veiwing the tour online or from local disk?

Also the video files are located in the ptp build folder.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

It doesn't matter where the source video file is - it will be copied and renamed when incorporated into the tour on Build.

But be aware that even if you choose to embed all data - and I recomnmend that you don't - video and audio files are never embedded.

Finally mobile-compatible tours created using PTP 1.8 do not support video on iDevices.


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by lozanno » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:47 am

Thank you mediavets, I began with some .mov files, then convert .mov in smaller files .m4v and are now showing perfectly. My guess is that PTP does not support big video files. Anyway who want to place a +500mb movie into a VT.

Solved! :D

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by mediavets » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:54 am

lozanno wrote:Thank you mediavets, I began with some .mov files, then convert .mov in smaller files .m4v and are now showing perfectly. My guess is that PTP does not support big video files. Anyway who want to place a +500mb movie into a VT.

Solved! :D

PTP 1.8 will probably allow large video files...but it will download the entire file before displying any video so it may take some time before you see the video if the tour is online and the video file is huge.

PTP 2.x allows you to display linked YouTube videos via its Video box plugin..
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by lozanno » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:56 am

By the way! Any update about PTP 2?
Can't wait to use and explore all the features.

I read in some forum pages about the availability in beta version. Do you have a link to try it?

Thanks for all.

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by mediavets » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:20 am

lozanno wrote:By the way! Any update about PTP 2?
Can't wait to use and explore all the features.

I read in some forum pages about the availability in beta version. Do you have a link to try it?

Thanks for all.

If you wish to try - or use for production work - PTP 2.x then use the Contact form:

http://www.kolor.com/contact.html

and ask Kolor to register you on the Kolor VIProom forum set up to support pre-release testing and use of PTP 2.x where you will find download links and can obtain peer support, and developer input.

PTP 2.x is currently at Alpha 14 state - incomplete with some bugs - but so many wanted to use it warts-n-all for production work that Kolor decided to make licenses available and you can upgrade via your Kolor web store account.

http://www.kolor.com/updates.html
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