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Krpano Analytics Plugin by default in PTP

by pu2wxp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:57 pm

Hi all,

I have a lot of difficult to set up the Analytics plugin I have get from Krpano.

Maybe, is possible to Kolor set it by Default in Panotour software?
Offcourse, the user have to buy it first, before set it in Panotour (like has Kolor license in first version of software).

Please!
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by vincen » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:44 pm

yep would be a really nice feature :)
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by pu2wxp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:47 pm

vincen wrote:yep would be a really nice feature :)

I am sure about that! Kolor Team, pleaseeee!
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by gkaefer » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:06 pm

what do you see the more value with this plugin?

well google analytics are central placed on the website in general, where your panos are placed. So your panos are getting analysed for you. I think that every CMS driven web on earth today has a google analytics plugin (and also for free there are usabel ones..) available, why should I place than additional google analytics for all my bunch of panos seperatley?

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by pu2wxp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:10 pm

gkaefer wrote:what do you see the more value with this plugin?

well google analytics are central placed on the website in general, where your panos are placed. So your panos are getting analysed for you. I think that every CMS driven web on earth today has a google analytics plugin (and also for free there are usabel ones..) available, why should I place than additional google analytics for all my bunch of panos seperatley?

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Georg,

I do not mean to sound rude, forgive my sincerity.

Sometimes it seems, that you think, you are talking to an imbecile.

Obvious that any website has now set up your analytics! Precisely for that, owners and managers of hotels, more and more, want to know what makes your site sell more.

And the ability to measure what the user does inside the tour, how long he keeps looking, and when he quit the tour he goes to the contact page and send an e-mail, for example, be able to measure the rate of conversion that the tour reaches.

Because with my tours without this plugin, when he is at the customer site and enter the tour the analytics shows how the user left the site! The rejection rate is high because the analytics stop to track when the user enters the virtual tour.

For this reason, be able to measure and tell if a virtual tour makes a difference and if the investment is good. It can help to sell more tours, or not.

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by gkaefer » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:27 pm

pu2wxp wrote:
gkaefer wrote:what do you see the more value with this plugin?

well google analytics are central placed on the website in general, where your panos are placed. So your panos are getting analysed for you. I think that every CMS driven web on earth today has a google analytics plugin (and also for free there are usabel ones..) available, why should I place than additional google analytics for all my bunch of panos seperatley?

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Georg,

I do not mean to sound rude, forgive my sincerity.

Sometimes it seems, that you think, you are talking to an imbecile.

Obvious that any website has now set up your analytics! Precisely for that, owners and managers of hotels, more and more, want to know what makes your site sell more.

And the ability to measure what the user does inside the tour, how long he keeps looking, and when he quit the tour he goes to the contact page and send an e-mail, for example, be able to measure the rate of conversion that the tour reaches.

Because with my tours without this plugin, when he is at the customer site and enter the tour the analytics shows how the user left the site! The rejection rate is high because the analytics stop to track when the user enters the virtual tour.

For this reason, be able to measure and tell if a virtual tour makes a difference and if the investment is good. It can help to sell more tours, or not.

Best regards,

sorry - this is not at all my intension - to say it very clearly - never. and if you think to read this in my lines - or this is written in my lines because of my non native language knowledge using wrong words, than - excuse me & sorry.
I just did not get the purpose for this plugin you suggested to be included to ptp - because I'm not aware that such data is not collected by analytics tools installed generally on that webspace, where the tour also in located. I did even read the docu page very fast the short description - i did miss this or its really not explaned there - whatever...

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by pu2wxp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:46 pm

well,

As far as I know, without this plugin, the analytics can not track the user within the flash tour.

So, if your client wants to know if it was good to invest in your tour. For him, be able to measure the data within the tour can be very relevant.

And this might be good or bad for us.

But can also show what we can do to improve if necessary.

I think. Correct me if I'm wrong
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by gkaefer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:12 am

pu2wxp wrote:well,

As far as I know, without this plugin, the analytics can not track the user within the flash tour.

So, if your client wants to know if it was good to invest in your tour. For him, be able to measure the data within the tour can be very relevant.

And this might be good or bad for us.

But can also show what we can do to improve if necessary.

I think. Correct me if I'm wrong

sounds logic.

I tried in past to split the ptp theme templates into several xml files to get logic parts using the
<include url="xxx.xml"/> syntax krpano is offering (and the google analytics plugin is loaded this way too).
Placing this statement in the ptp templates is not working (or I did not find the correct place).
it seems that the including is not recognized/interpreted while loading the ptp templates. and placing the include statement in final tour code should be possible but than redoing the tour with ptp gets complicated... so indeed implementing the tool to ptp (including setting options for the plugin via ptp...) sounds good

Georg

PS: ;-)) HTML5 version also exists, so future proof ;-)
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by pu2wxp » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:20 am

gkaefer wrote:
pu2wxp wrote:well,

As far as I know, without this plugin, the analytics can not track the user within the flash tour.

So, if your client wants to know if it was good to invest in your tour. For him, be able to measure the data within the tour can be very relevant.

And this might be good or bad for us.

But can also show what we can do to improve if necessary.

I think. Correct me if I'm wrong

sounds logic.

I tried in past to split the ptp theme templates into several xml files to get logic parts using the
<include url="xxx.xml"/> syntax krpano is offering. Placing this statement in the ptp templates is not working (or I did not find the correct place).
it seems that the including is not recognized/interpreted while loading the ptp templates. and placing the include statement in final tour code should be possible but than redoing the tour with ptp gets complicated... so indeed implementing the tool to ptp (including setting options for the plugin via ptp...) sounds good

Georg

Georg,

I have no doubt that would be great!

Please Kolor Team...

Best
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by scoopz » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:00 pm

I too would love to see a way to integrate analytic code into the tour in the future. I have GA tracking code in the .html when the tour loads so I can see where the visitors have come from, location, IP, etc but on some of the larger tours I would love to actually be able to track their hotspot and navigation clicks within the tour. This could help me optimise hotspot size and positioning, etc as well let the client see reports.

It's not a necessity but it would be nice.
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by futureweb » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:21 am

Opt in too, this is a feature I would miss,either that, or just being able to set a javascript call each time an image or hotspot is clicked,
so actions could be done outside of the tour.
But beside to this, it would be important that not just id's, but aliases or title or any of that is sent, so that statistics make sence, and you would be able to track the way a user does through a tour for enhancing it.
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by pu2wxp » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:06 pm

futureweb wrote:Opt in too, this is a feature I would miss,either that, or just being able to set a javascript call each time an image or hotspot is clicked,
so actions could be done outside of the tour.
But beside to this, it would be important that not just id's, but aliases or title or any of that is sent, so that statistics make sence, and you would be able to track the way a user does through a tour for enhancing it.

I hope the Kolor Team is listening to us!

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by mrmark » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:40 pm

The way I did it is to embed the code in a html.

This html opens the swf and voilà¡ you can track visitors.

(the things you have to change are written in capslock:))

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
<head>
<title> title of your pano </title>
<meta name="keywords" content=" keywords of your pano">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />


<style type="text/css" media="screen">
html, body { height:100%; background-color: #ccccff;}
body { margin:0; padding:0; overflow:hidden; }
#flashContent { width:100%; height:100%; }
</style>
</head>

<<<<PUT HERE YOUR GOOGLE ANALYTICS CODE>>>>

<body>
<div id="flashContent">
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="100%" height="100%" id="strijp-s" align="middle">
<param name="movie" value="NAMEOFYOURPANO.swf" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#ccccff" />
<param name="play" value="true" />
<param name="loop" value="true" />
<param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
<param name="scale" value="showall" />
<param name="menu" value="true" />
<param name="devicefont" value="false" />
<param name="salign" value="" />
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<!--[if !IE]>-->
<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="NAMEOFYOURPANO.swf" width="100%" height="100%">
<param name="movie" value="NAMEOFYOURPANO.swf" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#ccccff" />
<param name="play" value="true" />
<param name="loop" value="true" />
<param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
<param name="scale" value="showall" />
<param name="menu" value="true" />
<param name="devicefont" value="false" />
<param name="salign" value="" />
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<!--<![endif]-->
<a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflash">
<img src="http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif" alt="Get Adobe Flash player" />
</a>
<!--[if !IE]>-->
</object>
<!--<![endif]-->
</object>
</div>
</body>
</html>
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by futureweb » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:49 pm

Hi,

well, you are tracking if the tour was opened, what we are talking about is tracking what was done within the tour, what images are opened,
how the tour is used, what ways does the user go.

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by scoopz » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:49 pm

mrmark wrote:The way I did it is to embed the code in a html.

This html opens the swf and voilà¡ you can track visitors.

That is what I currently do too, but it only tracks/logs when a visitor loads your tour. The krpano plugin tracks the users activity *within* the tour, so you can see which hotspots get clicked, how long they spend view each pano in the tour, which pano they looked at last before they left the tour etc.

If you only have one pano in your tour then simply embedding the tracking code in the HTML page is all you need really, it's only when you have mulitple panos in a tour and want to track interaction within the tour that the plugin would be helpful.
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by hankkarl » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:23 pm

See http://www.google.com/analytics/iq.html look at "event tracking and virtual pageviews"


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