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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:46 am
by phototrek
I would still like to know what the "duration of the contract is". Not sure if I am the only one who read the contract terms, I know many people don't care - I know that I don't pretty much care either - but I like to at least *understand* what I am signing up for. Since posting in the other thread didn't yield any replies, I'll try it here :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:13 am
by AlexandreJ
The duration of the contract ... good point. In fact, if the book is a great success we have the idea of making such a book each year. So the duration is in fact the timelaps during which the book is available ( it's written in the contract and it express that, even if the way it's written is not really clear in fact. We had to follow French law rules here ). So the duration is the lifetime of the availability of the book.
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Another point. The rights : you concede rights on images for this book or for promotion of this book and only and those only 2 cases. Some people didn't read accurately the contract and it doesn't allow us to use your pictures for any other stuff than the "book" or "book promotion".

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:03 am
by fma38
Are these rights exclusive? Or is it still possible to use the photos for other usages (even commercial)?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:14 am
by AlexandreJ
Not exclusive of course :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:20 am
by Michael Ezra
Hi Alexandre,

I print my works in limited editions only. If I participate in the project, would this mean that my image could be printed (besides the book itself) by Kolor?
I am just concerned that this would break integrity of limited edition.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:25 pm
by AlexandreJ
No, Kolor has only 2 rights : to create the book with your picture or use some pictures to make advertisements for the book ( I would found that really hard to make a leaflet for the panorama book without having the right to use some pictures to illustrate that ). Beside that, we don't have any right. We cannot for example make any print of any pictures.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:27 pm
by phototrek
Ok, that helps to clarify it. I think I read the contract text quite carefully but was quite confused by it...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:53 pm
by Michael Ezra
Thanks for clarification, Alexandre.
After reading the contract I was under impression that images can be printed for the exhibitions/etc.
I could colloborate with you on that by I would need a very controlled environment, to have a full track on what is printed.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:14 am
by DamoRed
Hi Alexandre,

I'm attempting to upload an image for inclusion in the book. However, there doesn't appear to be any progress on this. The upload window is reading 0.2 of 49.6 Mbytes since I clicked the upload button about 15-20 minutes ago.

Also, I'm thinking that 50 Mo is 50Mb, but not sure. The technical guidelines for size limits and filesizes are not specifically listed. Other than..

Upload rules:
- Allowed file formats : JPG, TIFF, PNG
- Maximum size: 50 Mo

Okay, now there's been some change, as the upload window has changed to http://www.autopano.net/panobook/my-pictures.html. Should I be able to see a preview of the image I uploaded? As things are at the moment, it says 'Image preview in progress', but there is no preview.

Thank you

Damo

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:32 am
by phototrek
The image preview takes usually a few minutes to generate. You simply reload the page in a few minutes and should see the preview.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:17 am
by klausesser
phototrek wrote:The image preview takes usually a few minutes to generate. You simply reload the page in a few minutes and should see the preview.

Yesterday i loaded up some pictures - there isn´t any preview still. Does that mean the upload failed?

best, Klaus

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:52 am
by Rami
There is a small issue with the image previews, but if you can see the image name/location, then your image has been correctly uploaded.

Thanks for your contributions,
Rami

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:56 am
by klausesser
rami wrote:There is a small issue with the image previews, but if you can see the image name/location, then your image has been correctly uploaded.

Thanks for your contributions,
Rami

Thank you, Rami!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:00 pm
by DamoRed
Thank you, Rami. I've refreshed the page, but it still hasn't appeared, so this information is very welcome!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:27 pm
by bazaar
Salut,

si on n'a pas possibilité d'uploader à  partir de ce soir, on peut au moins modifier nos notes, je n'ai pas tout rempli les champs...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:57 pm
by beeloba
What is the size of the book and how many pages?

I mean how many panos can be placed on a single page, so what is the best aspect ratio.
I guess that panos on 1 by 4 ratio are going to be very small!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:06 pm
by fma38
What kind of informations do you want? Technical? Artistic?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:19 pm
by marco-pano
bazaar wrote:... on peut au moins modifier nos notes, je n'ai pas tout rempli les champs...

Kolor est resté très vague sur le contenu des champs, je fais confiance à  Alexandre/Rami qu'une fois fait le choix des contributions, il y aura moyen en ligne ou par mail de modifier les champs informatifs pour donner un peu d'uniformité sur les infos : que veux-t-on ?

Des infos sur les techniques de prise de vue et de stitching (cela ne va pas beaucoup intéresser les non-panoramistes) ? Des infos sur le lieu ou le sujet (je pense que c'est plus attirant pour un livre qui ne devrait pas être réservé à  quelques spécialistes, même si 2500 utilisateurs enregistrés ici, cela fait plus que 'quelques' :lol:).

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:35 pm
by marco-pano
beeloba wrote:What is the size of the book and how many pages?

Alexandre gave information on that : book is based on A4 size in landscape mode (28.7cm x 20cm because of printing marges), but some pictures may be spread on 2 or 3 pages in the width that will be folded. The total pages in the book may be between 150 and 200 pages.
beeloba wrote:... how many panos can be placed on a single page, so what is the best aspect ratio. I guess that panos on 1 by 4 ratio are going to be very small!

'how many panos in a page' will be the result of Kolor paging choice. When you mention 'panos on 1 by 4 ratio', I understand 'vertical pano'. I don't see any problem for Kolor to put 2 vertical panos on a double page, panos oriented to fill up the latter.
Thanks Beeloba, I've uploaded a vertical pano. I hope you have too and we may see our panos side by side :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:23 am
by DrSlony
Closing date is the "End of August", could I ask for one extra day? I'm busy rendering a panorama I'd like to upload...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:20 am
by AlexandreJ
We'll close the interface today. So hurry up !

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:41 am
by DrSlony
Yes sir! Busy with it all the time...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:06 am
by bazaar
Alex,

is it possible to continue writing comments, after today?
Thank you!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:41 am
by AlexandreJ
No, everything will be closed this evening. Some details about how we will proceed :
- Tomorrow, I will wrote some script to help us to make the editing ( choosing images ). Our estimation is to keep around 400 images. Due to the success of the panobook, it will be 1 image per use but some user will probably have 2 images.
- Everything will be checked by us in the next 2 days before sending everything to the guy that will make the book. We'll have 2, 3 pages done to check the layout, text, etc.
- Have the 180, 200 pages layout done for end of September.
- October is reserved for finishing layout and printing.
- November on our website for ordering and shipping.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:25 am
by DamoRed
Hi Alexandre,

Do you have any estimates on what the cost will be? I know it won't be a definitive answer, but just an idea would be great.

Thank you

Damo