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by caretaker360 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:32 am

Trying to install PW on Nokia N800.

The FAQ says to flash to latest OS2008 , I guess the Diablo OS on the tablet is not the correct one ? Not too often a retro-grade is called for ...
May sound like a dumb question, but I am an Android user.

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by fma38 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:45 am

OS2008 is diablo... But be sure you have an up-to-date release.
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by mediavets » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:54 pm

caretaker360 wrote:Trying to install PW on Nokia N800.

The FAQ says to flash to latest OS2008 , I guess the Diablo OS on the tablet is not the correct one ? Not too often a retro-grade is called for ...
May sound like a dumb question, but I am an Android user.

Thanks,
C

The reason the Papywizard install instructions recommend flashing the OS to the latest release is to be certain to have a 'clean' system on which to install Papywizard.

The latest (last) release of OS2008 is version: 5.2008.43-7

You can check the current installed version using the Settings/Control panel/About product options.

If you have access to a Windows PC then you can download and use the Nokia tool to check and update the OS as appropriate:

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/Install_Papywizard_v2_on_Nokia_N8x0#Install_the_latest_OS2008_firmware_from_Windows
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by caretaker360 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:48 am

Well I was able to install PW on the Nokia, but getting an "Can't connect to hardware. Host is down"
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by fma38 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:59 am

Did you enter the correct bluetooth address?
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by mediavets » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:46 am

caretaker360 wrote:Well I was able to install PW on the Nokia, but getting an "Can't connect to hardware. Host is down"

What sort of Bluetooth/TTL device do you have for your Merlin mount?

Is it this one?:
http://www.papymerlin.com/interface-%C3%A9lectronique/
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by caretaker360 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:29 pm

My mistake not saying which BT unit.
- as far as I recall, all that was asked on the Nokia 800 setup was a four digit I'd number.
- yes it is the blue single that came with the Panogear/Merlin.

Thanks :-)
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by mediavets » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:44 pm

caretaker360 wrote:Well I was able to install PW on the Nokia, but getting an "Can't connect to hardware. Host is down"

Which version of Papywizard are you running?

Can you outline the steps you have taken when you get this error message. I can't reproduce the problem.

You may like to install the load-applet program on your N800 - it enables you to make screenshots which can be useful to illustrate messages posted on the forum.
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by mediavets » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:18 pm

caretaker360 wrote:My mistake not saying which BT unit.
- as far as I recall, all that was asked on the Nokia 800 setup was a four digit I'd number.
- yes it is the blue single that came with the Panogear/Merlin.

Thanks :-)

Check list:

1. Check that Bluetooth is enabled on your N800 via the Control Panel/Bluetooth.

2. Connect the Papymerlin Bluetooth interface device to your Merlin head (never connect the hand controller at the same time) and power up the Merlin, check that red LED is flashing in the Bluettooth device.

3. In Papywizard set Hardware/Plugins for Yaw, Pitch and Shutter to Merlin-Orion and Bluetooth on the Plugins tab.

4. Go to the Hardware/Plugins/Drivers tab and use the Choose button to select the PapyMerlin device. Then close the Plugins dialogue.

5. Use Hardware/Connect to make a connection between Papywizard and the Merlin mount via Bluetooth, enter the Bluetooth passcode 1234 if asked for it. The red LED in the Bluetooth device should stop flashing and display a steady red. 'Connection started' should be displayed in the status bar at the bottom of the Papywizard main screen.

6. Check that you can move the mount on both axes with the arrow keys on the Papywizard main screen.
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Nikon D5100 and D40, Sigma 8mm f3.5 FE, Nikon 10.5mm FE, 35mm, 50mm, 18-55mm, 70-210mm. Promote control.

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by caretaker360 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:53 am

Thanks for the list.
Tried them all and still no life from the PWizard (ver 1.6.1)
So I gave up and re installed the whole OS.
That seemed to do the trick (my third full install) but now right 1/8 of screen is double and hard to read. Entering numbers is somewhat of a hit or miss operation.
I am just about ready to toss that N800 and get a notebook :-(
Tomorrow I will try a real mosaic and see if I can if it works.

c
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by mediavets » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:14 am

caretaker360 wrote:Thanks for the list.
Tried them all and still no life from the PWizard (ver 1.6.1)

Why did you install V 1..6.1 that a very very old version, did you perhaps mistakenly follow the install instructions for the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet? V 1.6.1 is the most recent version that runs on the Nokia 770 but you should use the latest V 2.x version on all other platforms - N800/N810 OS2008, Windows XP/Vista/7, Mac OSX and Linux.

Are you quite sure you have installed PW 1.6.1 because my check list of instructions, which you claim to have tried, relates to V 2.1.21-1.

The install instructions for the N800/N810 tell you to install the latest development version of Papywizard, that is V. 2.1.21-1:

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/Install_Papywizard_v2_on_Nokia_N8x0

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/Install_Papywizard_v2_on_Nokia_N8x0#Install_the_latest_development_version_of_Papywizard_v2

http://www.papywizard.org/wiki/Download#Developementversions

but now right 1/8 of screen is double and hard to read.

Hard to imagine what that looks like or why it is happening. Do you mean this occurs only when running PW or all the time even when running other programs and even before installing Papywizard ?

Entering numbers is somewhat of a hit or miss operation.[

Why? The onscreen/pop-up virtual keyboard doesn't work when entering numeric values in Papywizard V2.x on the N800/N810 (some unresolved issue with the underlying QT programming 'framework') you just use the -/+ buttons either side of the data entry 'box' to raise or lower the numeric values.

I am just about ready to toss that N800 and get a notebook :-(
Tomorrow I will try a real mosaic and see if I can if it works.

c

Don't give up on the N800 yet, as the old saying goes " if all else fails, read the instructions".;)

The Linux-derived OS2008 operating system for the N800/N810 is unfamiliar to most people so it is initially a bit of a challenge to get things installed and working, it is also a novel experience for Windows and Mac OSX users to find themselves entering commands via a command line UI rather than a GUI. OS2008 is quite intolerant of mistakes when you are entering commands and it is also case-sensitive. But if followed precisely the install instructions for Papywizard do work.

Unles there's some hardware fault with your N800 I'm sure we can can get Papywizard working correctly on your tablet.
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by caretaker360 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:46 am

You guys are the best, I will give it a go to see why the older PW was installed. You mentioned something about a plugin for a print screen type application. Do you have a name, I had a look at the "possible installs" nothing in any names jumped out as a clear choice.
Thank for being patient, true any new OS has a leading curve and anything that starts with a /* get_ whatever on a black screen is for developpers :-)
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by mediavets » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:40 pm

caretaker360 wrote:You mentioned something about a plugin for a print screen type application. Do you have a name, I had a look at the "possible installs" nothing in any names jumped out as a clear choice.

It is called load-applet.
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by caretaker360 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:30 am

:D ok seems to have worked. Not sure where the bug was, but it works.
I can see my shared folders on my LAN on the Nokia but can't move images or the VR data to the workstation.
I feel like the old C-64 or Apple+ days... been around for a while :-)
Anyone remember the Timex-Sinclair?
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by mediavets » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:23 am

caretaker360 wrote::D ok seems to have worked. Not sure where the bug was, but it works.

Great. :)

I can see my shared folders on my LAN on the Nokia but can't move images or the VR data to the workstation.

I wonder why not - I can move/copy files from the N800 to my WinXP desktop over WiFi connection using the N800 FileManager. But I don't usually move Papywizard XML data files that way.

Instead I have configured the Data directory for saving Papywizard XML data files to be one of the two SD cards (see screenshot), then hook up the N800 via USB, so that the SD cards in the N800 appear as additional disk drives, and then copy the files over using Windows Explorer.

I feel like the old C-64 or Apple+ days... been around for a while :-)
Anyone remember the Timex-Sinclair?

I remember but never used any of those, but did a lot with CP/M based micros of the same era.


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Nikon D5100 and D40, Sigma 8mm f3.5 FE, Nikon 10.5mm FE, 35mm, 50mm, 18-55mm, 70-210mm. Promote control.


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