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by **GURL** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:10 pm

by GURL » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:10 pm

I lose my bet... No vignetting is visible between rows because this overlap is much larger:

Georges

by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:20 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:20 pm

Ok, I understand, the overlap is large enough on vertical rows, so NN5 is not enough for the 300mm (I am at the minimum angle = 3,75°) so it does not overlap enough horizontally......

Now I have a .lcp file for that lens, I have tried it trough the plug in in APG, it does not seem to work very well : the left down corner of the photo becomes all over exposed. So I am going to try the correction directly through PS CS5.

by **klausesser** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:57 pm

by klausesser » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:57 pm

mountaintb wrote:. . . so NN5 is not enough for the 300mm (I am at the minimum angle = 3,75°) so it does not overlap enough horizontally......

ask Julian Kalmar (Vienna 60GPx pano) - he had a ring custom-made for tighter steps on NN5.

mountaintb wrote:Now I have a .lcp file for that lens, I have tried it trough the plug in in APG, it does not seem to work very well : the left down corner of the photo becomes all over exposed. So I am going to try the correction directly through PS CS5.

Did you try the pictures completely un-processed?

best, Klaus

btw.: beautiful landscape-pictures on your website!!

Simplicity is the keynote of all true elegance. Coco Chanel

by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:10 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:10 pm

I am going to try Claus; Thank you.

by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:50 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:50 pm

This is the result with the Raw files (NEF) with no treatment...................

by **mediavets** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:05 pm

by mediavets » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:05 pm

mountaintb wrote:Ok, I understand, the overlap is large enough on vertical rows, so NN5 is not enough for the 300mm (I am at the minimum angle = 3,75°) so it does not overlap enough horizontally......

Perhaps you should go for a Merlin/Panogear robotic pano system had for this sort of shooting?

Andrew Stephens
Many different Nodal Ninja and Agnos pano heads. Merlin/Panogear mount with Papywizard on Nokia Internet tablets.
Nikon D5100 and D40, Sigma 8mm f3.5 FE, Nikon 10.5mm FE, 35mm, 50mm, 18-55mm, 70-210mm. Promote control.

by **klausesser** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:33 pm

by klausesser » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:33 pm

mediavets wrote:Perhaps you should go for a Merlin/Panogear robotic pano system had for this sort of shooting?

Guess itÂ´s really just to few overlap. Strange nevertheless. But thatÂ´s definitely not a bug in the software . . . :cool:

best, Klaus

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by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:46 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:46 pm

I do agree about the overlap and about the vignetting of the lens but with the .lcp file, no more vignetting... I am a bit anoyed about NN5, they said it goes to 300mm.........

by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:57 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:57 pm

Let's stop here that topic, unless someone has really something very new to bring, I have a panogear, but I don't find it very reliable for that sort of job, and not fast enough.......

by **mountaintb** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:58 pm

by mountaintb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:58 pm

Thank you to everybody and Klauss :

On my website you can visit those :
http://www.nanofilm.fr/culturel.html
http://www.nanofilm.fr/humain.html

by **mountaintb** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:14 am

by mountaintb » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:14 am

Is 2.0.9 still available somewhere???

by **mediavets** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:24 am

by mediavets » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:24 am

mountaintb wrote:Is 2.0.9 still available somewhere???

http://download.autopano.net/history

Andrew Stephens
Many different Nodal Ninja and Agnos pano heads. Merlin/Panogear mount with Papywizard on Nokia Internet tablets.
Nikon D5100 and D40, Sigma 8mm f3.5 FE, Nikon 10.5mm FE, 35mm, 50mm, 18-55mm, 70-210mm. Promote control.

by **mountaintb** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:32 am

by mountaintb » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:32 am

Thank you and by the way I found a pano from last summer made with 140 pic made with 2.0.9..........

by **mountaintb** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:33 am

by mountaintb » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:33 am

not perfect in the sky but not far...

by **mountaintb** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:56 am

by mountaintb » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:56 am

Working last night with 2.0.9 this is my best result :

by **GURL** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:35 am

by GURL » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:35 am

Vertical vignetting is slightly visible there too.

A trick to watch vignetting is to reduce display size and to use the horizontal scroll bar to move the pano fast...

Georges

by **GURL** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:05 pm

by GURL » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:05 pm

@Thierry: je t'ai répondu sur ton site parce que par wanadoo ça passe pas...

Georges

by **Bmachine** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:34 pm

by Bmachine » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:34 pm

Just out of curiosity... why shoot so many small images for a pano like that? Especially with a high quality full frame camera like a D700? Is this going to be projected on the side of a building? Could you have achieved the same results easier and faster with a wider lens and more overlap?

I realize that this may be an interesting technical exercise but as far as the resulting image goes, is there a specific reason to shoot 72 images with a 300mm?

Bo

iMac 27. OS 10.8.5. Aperture, APG, PS and Lightzone.
Nikon D600. Mostly handheld.

by **hankkarl** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:39 pm

by hankkarl » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:39 pm

OK, so we need more overlap to reduce vignetting. But we need less overlap to get a better stitch.

I think we need a way to specify where APP should look for CPs. see http://www.autopano.net/forum/t11003-overlap-minimizer

by **klausesser** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:00 pm

by klausesser » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:00 pm

Bmachine wrote:. . . is there a specific reason to shoot 72 images with a 300mm?

Resolution, size. There are people who shoot 200 images with a 300mm - iÂ´m one of them . . :cool:

Very high sharpness/ optical resolution are unrivaled when shot using long (excellent) lenses and many images.

best, Klaus

Simplicity is the keynote of all true elegance. Coco Chanel

by **Bmachine** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:41 pm

by Bmachine » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:41 pm

Sure I can understand that.

What do you use this ultra high resolution for? Large projections on buildings? Billboards?

iMac 27. OS 10.8.5. Aperture, APG, PS and Lightzone.
Nikon D600. Mostly handheld.

by **klausesser** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:47 pm

by klausesser » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:47 pm

Bmachine wrote:Sure I can understand that.

What do you use this ultra high resolution for? Large projections on buildings? Billboards?

Large prints and/or deep zooms.

best, Klaus

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