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3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:13 pm
by klausesser
Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:16 pm
by gkaefer
klausesser wrote:Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.


Hi Klaus,

can you make some low res Images and send a private download link (Images and XML)
I currently do test my new panoneed ;-))) excessivley and using the xmls with the 3.5 I today did no Encounter any Problem so far....

Liebe Grüße,
Georg

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:42 am
by AntoineM
Hi Klaus,
Please send me the download link if you upload your images and XML.
Best regards,
Antoine.

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:00 pm
by klausesser
Hi Antoine, hi Georg!

In the evening i´ll put it on my server and send you the link as PM!

thanks in advance, Klaus

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:35 pm
by klausesser
Hi Antoine, hi Georg!

here it is:

www.klausesser-interaktiv.de/3_5.zip

best, Klaus

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:43 pm
by gkaefer
klausesser wrote:Hi Antoine, hi Georg!

here it is:

http://www.klausesser-interaktiv.de/3_5.zip

best, Klaus


thanks for the link.
first try: loading XML with papy imprt + ignoring the hint that lens type in XML is not equal to lens type of the Image (what is normal, the jpgs have no exif)
detection hit... I saved the Project file and attached it.... you maybe have to adopt the Image paths...

I played a bit with colorcorrection and optimized CPs thats it...

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:51 pm
by gkaefer
editing CPs:
all links in upper row I added new cps automatically and did globally optimize. than I deleted all CPs higher than 3.99.
all links in lower row I deleted all CPs higher than 3.99.
result 2.40 RMS...

and my Settings used:

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:55 pm
by gkaefer
Settings part 2:

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:56 pm
by gkaefer
Settings used part 3
and a render limited to 3200xY Pixels (1.00mb)
except a not burning tealight I cant see any anomalies :cool:

Liebe Grüße,
Georg

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:04 am
by mediavets
klausesser wrote:Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.


Is there any need to use XML when shooting with a fisheye lens?

You say yourself it stitches perfectly without so what's the problem here?

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:06 am
by klausesser
mediavets wrote:
klausesser wrote:Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.


Is there any need to use XML when shooting with a fisheye lens?

You say yourself it stitches perfectly without so what's the problem here?


The problem is that the XML doesn´t work perfectly as usual. Aside from that it´s not needed here.
Shooting indoors in small rooms and/or low ceilings the XML often is very well needed!
Whether it´s needed or not: it needs to work properly.

But i played a bit with the settings - it works well now!

Thanks for evaluating, Georg!

best, Klaus

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:16 am
by mediavets
klausesser wrote:Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.


I had no trouble with it.

Screenshot 1 - demonstrates that it detected focal length discrepancy (between what is recorded in the XML and the defauklt value should there be no EXIF).

Screenshot 2 - choose to use XML focal.

Screenshot 3 - end result.

Looks OK to me.

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:46 am
by klausesser
mediavets wrote:
klausesser wrote:Hi!

Without PW-XML the pano - 6 shots fisheye - stitches perfectly in 3.5.
With PW-XML it´s producing a mess. I tried "skip optim." and unchecked it (optimization) - makes no difference.

The XML is correct and works perfectly in PTGui.

Klaus

Using XML doesn´t provide usable results so far.


I had no trouble with it.

Screenshot 1 - demonstrates that it detected focal length discrepancy (between what is recorded in the XML and the defauklt value should there be no EXIF).

Screenshot 2 - choose to use XML focal.

Screenshot 3 - end result.

Looks OK to me.


Hi Andrew!

The RMS means at least minor errors. I also had RMS around 3 first - produced small but visible errors.
After checking the settings and set them to values i found stitching and optimizing in the end
lead to RMS around 1 and showed no errors anymore.

best and thank you too, Klaus

Result (heavy compression and a sRGB profile lead to some posterizing):

Re: 3.5 XML plus optimization

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:15 pm
by AntoineM
Hi,
We have worked a lot on the use of XML files this week, you should see a great improvement in beta2 (to be released next week in principle).
Best regards,
Antoine.