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by Henricus » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:16 pm

Dear forum,

I'm desperately searching for a documentation that would teach me how to influence the behaviour of my swf files I created with Autopano tour.
For instance, I would like to limit the zoom factor a user could choose when regarding my panos.

Also, I would like to know which parametrs I can control by adding some command lines to the html file.

Any hints will be highly appreciated.

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by mediavets » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:54 pm

Welcome to the forum...

Henricus wrote:Dear forum,

I'm desperately searching for a documentation that would teach me how to influence the behaviour of my swf files I created with Autopano tour.

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/Main_Page
For instance, I would like to limit the zoom factor a user could choose when regarding my panos.

http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/view/3D_Editor_Window

Also, I would like to know which parameters I can control by adding some command lines to the html file.

None - because the krpano player/viewer is controlled via XML files. If you have a krpano license then you can externalise the XML files generated by APT and edit those.

Documentation for that is to be found on the krpano web site:
http://krpano.com/docu/

But don't hesitate to ask here, there's usually someone who can provide an answer.
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I hope you are using the latest version of APT, which offers the most control via the GUI to date? This is V1.1 beta 9 which you can download here:
http://www.autopano.net/forum/t9204-apt-v1.1-beta-9
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by Adrien F » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:48 am

Hello Henricus ,

We are aware of the lack of documentation about APT beta version features. But be sure we are working on it right now.

Also, I would like to know which parameters I can control by adding some command lines to the html file.

None - because the krpano player/viewer is controlled via XML files. If you have a krpano license then you can externalise the XML files generated by APT and edit those.

Actually, you can do pretty much things via the HTML web page to control you visit. I recently built an HTML template for a client where most of the krpano tweaks were made in the HTML page via javascript. This was to avoid, as much as possible, this client to edit xml code and still benefits from krpano features not yet available with APT.
For this you need:
* unlimited domain krpano licence
* to specify a limited domain in APT to enable javascript controls
* javascript knowledge
* krpano xml/functions knwoledge (http://www.krpano.com/docu/xml/ and http://www.krpano.com/docu/actions/)
* to know how to embed krpano visit vie javascript : http://www.krpano.com/docu/swfkrpanojs/

I particularly appreciated the addplugin/removeplugin and addhotspot/removehotspot actions. This enable you to practically build a whole visit from your HTML/javascript page.

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by mediavets » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:36 pm

Adrien F wrote:... This enable you to practically build a whole visit from your HTML/javascript page.

If only I'd known it was this easy.;)

Why, one really doesn't need APT at all.:rolleyes:

I wonder why Kolor is bothering to develop such software when, as you say, all you need is:

* unlimited domain krpano licence
* to specify a limited domain in APT to enable javascript controls
* javascript knowledge
* krpano xml/functions knwoledge (http://www.krpano.com/docu/xml/ and http://www.krpano.com/docu/actions/)
* to know how to embed krpano visit vie javascript : http://www.krpano.com/docu/swfkrpanojs/

:P
..........

Seriously, I feel that your answer goes some way to explain why APT is not developing as fast and as far as I (and others?) would like.

You have this knowledge and these skills - required to be able to develop APT I suppose - and can perhaps no longer put yourself in the shoes of those of us who do not have such knowledge and skills and never will. I know something of this phenomenon; I originally trained as a veterinary surgeon, and although I haven't worked as one for many many years when hearing some people talk about their pets' aliments I recognise/realise that although I've forgotten more about the subject than many people will ever know I still know far more than they do. Once one has acquired specialised knowledge and skills (in any field of activity) it's hard to recall what it was like not to have them, and easy to label people who lack this knowledge and these skills as 'stupid'.

So perhaps you find it hard(er) to understand why I (and others?) keep asking for more features to be made available/configurable via the GUI when for you it would be a simple matter to edit the XML or code a bit of Javascript to overcome the limitations of APT. Sadly, for 'the rest of us' these limitations simply mean that APT is still not good enough to achieve our, often rather unambitious, goals. It's just not realistic to imagine that we are all going to learn to hand code XML and Javascript to overcome/workaround the (often rather basic) limitations of APT. The reality is that instead the majority will be forced (reluctantly) to seek some alternative virtual tour authoring software that does do 'enough'.
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by Adrien F » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:47 pm

I totally got your point here and am conscious of our role has developers in this community.

The aim of my answer, as reductive as it may sound, was just to point out that there was a technical way to control a visit from an HTML page. As it was asked in the first post. And to add a bemol to your 'None' answer, I found a bit extreme as seen from the developer point of view. ;)

Of course it only shift the coding difficulty from XML to Javascript and is not a miracle solution. So softwares like APT still have a reason to exist! :)

I also posted it to share this tip with the few techies out here on this forum, and with people curious about code possibilities.

Anyway, I hope Henricus found his way through documentation and managed to do whatever he was hoping to.

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by mediavets » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:13 pm

Adrien F wrote:I totally got your point here and am conscious of our role as developers in this community.

I hope I don't always come across as being overly critical. APT has come on a long way since it's earliest incarnation; it's just that as ever I want it to be still better, and know it could evelove to be the best virtual tour authoring tool. It's good from an ease of use standpoint but as yet still lacks some desirable 'core' features I feel.

The aim of my answer, as reductive as it may sound, was just to point out that there was a technical way to control a visit from an HTML page. As it was asked in the first post. And to add a bemol to your 'None' answer, I found a bit extreme as seen from the developer point of view. ;)

I appreciate your position on this too. I was quite incorrect to say 'None'; and it just shows how little I know about the possibilities of krpano. Those with the knowlege and skills required can benefit from your answer.
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