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Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by Jimmy101 » Sat May 03, 2014 11:32 am

I am looking for some advice on which camera to buy for photographing panoramas.
I have narrowed it down to two cameras that are in my price range.
The Canon 6d or the Nikon D610
Can anyone recommend one over the other for panorama photography?
It is mainly for indoor panoramas if that helps with any advice.

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by HansKeesom » Sat May 03, 2014 12:11 pm

Most cameras will do fine. Just a few things to look for

-Can it do brackets of 5 or more with more then one stop space between each photos
-Can it automaticly shoot a whole bracket
-How fast can it write 5 photos to your memorycard
-Does it come with a remote that can trigger all shots of the bracket at once
-Does it have GPS or can it be easily expanded with a gps-module
-Can it communicate with your smartphone or tablet
-Can it do video so you can integrate video into your panoramas

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by mediavets » Sat May 03, 2014 12:28 pm

Jimmy101 wrote:I am looking for some advice on which camera to buy for photographing panoramas.
I have narrowed it down to two cameras that are in my price range.
The Canon 6d or the Nikon D610
Can anyone recommend one over the other for panorama photography?
It is mainly for indoor panoramas if that helps with any advice.

Jimmy


I hope you will be getting a good fisheye lens to accompany whatever camera body you choose. The Canon 8-15mm fisheye would be a good match for the Canon 6D body.

Then you'll also need a good pano head (the Nodal Ninja range is popular, and good quality) and tripod.

The AEB range of most DSLRs is not really adequate for pano photography espceially interiors, so you could also consider adding a Promote Control to your kit list:
http://www.promotesystems.com/products/ ... ntrol.html

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by klausesser » Sat May 03, 2014 2:11 pm

mediavets wrote:The AEB range of most DSLRs is not really adequate for pano photography espceially interiors, so you could also consider adding a Promote Control to your kit list:
http://www.promotesystems.com/products/ ... ntrol.html


PromoteControl is a very fine and helpful device - for users who need "more".

Ideal for average use are 3 steps of 2EV. DSLRs like Canon 6D these days provide at least 3 steps with
max. 3EV distance. Inmy Canon 5D2 i prefer 3 steps of 2EV when i shoot interiors with bright windows.
But more steps of 1 EV can be better on some occasions.
Having this you wouldn´t need a PromoteControl for 300.-$ ( i have one for extreme bracketings).
The Nikon D610´s specs i don´t know. But i think theyre not motre limited than the Canon´s - but as
i learned from my D800 work with a different strategy of bracketing.

Tha Canon´s advantage is the possible use of MagicLantern - which isn´t available for Nikon so far.

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by Jimmy101 » Sat May 03, 2014 10:22 pm

Thank you all for the great response.

I hadn’t realize how important bracketing was for interior panoramas. Time to go and read a few more reviews and see how both perform with bracketed photos.

Hello Mediavets, I was thinking of getting the Sigma 8mm f3.5 Circular Fisheye, not the Canon 8-15mm fisheye.

Is the any reason I shouldn’t get the Sigma?

Or a better question, why should I get the canon over the Sigma and is it worth the £450 more?

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by mediavets » Sat May 03, 2014 10:29 pm

Jimmy101 wrote:Thank you all for the great response.

I hadn’t realize how important bracketing was for interior panoramas. Time to go and read a few more reviews and see how both perform with bracketed photos.

Hello Mediavets, I was thinking of getting the Sigma 8mm f3.5 Circular Fisheye, not the Canon 8-15mm fisheye.

Is the any reason I shouldn’t get the Sigma?

Or a better question, why should I get the canon over the Sigma and is it worth the £450 more?

Jimmy

The Sigma 8mm is better suited to a cropped sensor body if shooting panos.

The Sigma 8mm produces a full circular image on a fullframe sensor which 'wastes' a lot of the sensor area.

The Canon 8-15mm fisheye can still do that if you wish but at 15mm it is a fullframe fisheye that produces an image that covers all of the sensor and will produce higher res. panos.

You could consider the Sigma 15mm fisheye instead.

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by klausesser » Sat May 03, 2014 11:44 pm

Jimmy101 wrote:Time to go and read a few more reviews and see how both perform with bracketed photos.


View the performance of 3 steps @2EV here:

http://www.360impressions.de/Wohnung

Could have the outdoor light through the windows more equalized - but i think it shouldnt be overdone.
Canon 5D2, Canon 2,8/15mm fisheye.

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by HansKeesom » Sun May 04, 2014 11:56 am

klausesser wrote:
Jimmy101 wrote:Time to go and read a few more reviews and see how both perform with bracketed photos.


View the performance of 3 steps @2EV here:

http://www.360impressions.de/Wohnung

Could have the outdoor light through the windows more equalized - but i think it shouldnt be overdone.
Canon 5D2, Canon 2,8/15mm fisheye.

Klaus


Indeed, 3 steps @2EV should do most of the time. I understand Nikons don't always have 2EV bracketing therefore need to look for 5 step bracketing to achieve the same result.

Nice appartment though, beautifull floor and stylish furnuture!

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by klausesser » Sun May 04, 2014 1:07 pm

HansKeesom wrote: I understand Nikons don't always have 2EV bracketing therefore need to look for 5 step bracketing to achieve the same result.


Yes - that´s pity. Needs about 30% more images.
The only way to achieve 2EV as 3 shots with my D800 is using the PromoteControl . . .
because there´s no MagicLantern for Nikons :mad:

HansKeesom wrote:Nice appartment though, beautifull floor and stylish furnuture!


Yep - friends of mine.

best, Klaus

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by Jimmy101 » Sun May 04, 2014 4:34 pm

Thanks all for the great advice. I have decided to go with the Canon 6d.

Hi klausesser, thanks for sharing that panorama. Very nice virtual tour, and a nice apartment as well.
I hope I get the same sort of results from the 6d that you get from the 5d.

Hi mediavets, I think I will go with the Sigma 15mm f2.8 Diagonal Fisheye not the Canon 8-15mm fisheye.
Unless there is something remarkable about the Canon I just can’t live without?

Does anyone have any experience with the Sigma 15mm?

Is there any problem with the hood when trying to make a Panorama?

Jimmy

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by HansKeesom » Sun May 04, 2014 4:52 pm

If you go full frame you might need better lenses then when doing APS-C.
I am not shooting FF so someone who does should confirm that glass/lenses need to be better.

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by mediavets » Sun May 04, 2014 5:19 pm

Jimmy101 wrote:Does anyone have any experience with the Sigma 15mm?

Is there any problem with the hood when trying to make a Panorama?

Jimmy

No, no problem with the hood.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/show ... product=76

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Re: Advice on choosing a camera for Panoramas

by klausesser » Sun May 04, 2014 10:03 pm

HansKeesom wrote:If you go full frame you might need better lenses then when doing APS-C.
I am not shooting FF so someone who does should confirm that glass/lenses need to be better.


Yes, definitely - of course: they need to fill a wider image-circle in excellent quality.
Using a FF lens on a crop camera gives the advantage that you only use the best part of it: the center.

The focal-length always must being regarded in combination with the image-circle from here the diagonal angle results.

So is A) 300mm a "normal lens" for an 8x10" camera - but B) a tele-lens for a 35mm camera.

A) has an image-circle of 31,2cm
B) has an image-circle of about 5cm


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