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Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:06 pm
by ahmad.afef
Hello every one,

I'm thinking about starting a new business in virtual tours and I'm not sure I have much than $2850 for everything.


What I have:

Sony VAIO T 15.5:
Core i5 3337u
4GB Ram

What I want to get:

1- Canon EOS 700D (760.00 USD => local seller)
2- NN3 MKII Starter Package (F3500) (260.00 USD)
3- Tripod from here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/200982573105) (45.00 USD)
4- Sigma 10mm f2.8 EX DC (760.00 USD => local seller)
5- Autopano Giga 3.0 (189.35 EUR)
6- Panotour Pro 2.0 (379.65 EUR)

Total is: ~2582.00 USD

Are the hardware (Camera, Lens, Tripod, and Tripod head) OK and good to go?
Is the lens compatible with the Camera?
Will the Camera and Lens work with the tripod head?
Will the tripod head work with the tripod?

I know the software is good and tested them with +100 image 20MP and had no trouble at all.

Thank you for reading and really hope to help me out :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:40 pm
by mediavets
Yes, the lens is compatible with the camera.

I think you need a better tripod.

I'm surprised you managed to handle '+100 image 20MP and had no trouble at all' on a laptop with just 4GB RAM.

A 64-bit OS and more RAM would be desirable.

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:00 pm
by ahmad.afef
Thanks a lot for the reply "mediavets"

Indeed i'll be upgrading to 8GB of RAM and the OS is Windows 8.1 64Bit
working with 4GB is ok but it's very slow and will have to use all RAM and a lot of hard drive cash.

About the tripod, can you suggest a good one under $200 and compatible with NN3 MKII?

Thank you :)

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:27 pm
by mediavets
ahmad.afef wrote:Thanks a lot for the reply "mediavets"

Indeed i'll be upgrading to 8GB of RAM and the OS is Windows 8.1 64Bit
working with 4GB is ok but it's very slow and will have to use all RAM and a lot of hard drive cash.


The other downsides of laptops vs. desktops for use with Autopano Giga is relatively slow and low capacity hard drives and relatively weak graphics performance.

About the tripod, can you suggest a good one under $200 and compatible with NN3 MKII?

Thank you :)


This one is popular with pano shooters:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ctg/Manfrotto-055 ... -/99712555

If you afford it get the leveling centre column accessory for it.

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:45 pm
by Destiny
Pre-used gear might also be an option..

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Tripo ... 4029975396

Destiny..

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:46 pm
by HansKeesom
Indeed tripod suggestion of mediavets is a good one.

When computer is not fast enough, let me know, I have a 16 GB i7 920 machine which can be accessed by RDP and dropbox.

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:53 pm
by ahmad.afef
Thanks a lot "mediavets" for the great advice :D

since ebay.uk don't ship to my country, i'll get the tripod from here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/151163766991)
and since i have no idea what "leveling centre column accessory" is, would you please take a look to see if it's included with it?

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:56 pm
by ahmad.afef
Thank you "Destiny" for the advice. considering shipping cost plus the cheapest tripod listed there, the price is very close to the new (Manfrotto 055XPROB) suggested by "mediavets".

So i'll stick with the new one :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:59 pm
by ahmad.afef
HansKeesom wrote:Indeed tripod suggestion of mediavets is a good one.

When computer is not fast enough, let me know, I have a 16 GB i7 920 machine which can be accessed by RDP and dropbox.


Oh My God :O !!

Now I wish I have better upload speed :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:36 am
by mediavets
ahmad.afef wrote:i have no idea what "leveling centre column accessory" is, would you please take a look to see if it's included with it?


This is it:

http://www.manfrotto.co.uk/levelling-ce ... for-055pro

And this explains the advantages of having one:

http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/oxfordtour/Tut ... od%20Setup

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:18 am
by ahmad.afef
mediavets wrote:
ahmad.afef wrote:i have no idea what "leveling centre column accessory" is, would you please take a look to see if it's included with it?


This is it:

http://www.manfrotto.co.uk/levelling-ce ... for-055pro

And this explains the advantages of having one:

http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/oxfordtour/Tut ... od%20Setup



You've been a great help "mediavets". I cant really thank you enough :)
The leveling thing is more expensive than the tripod itself, so i'll leave it for future expansion if I got lucky and everything worked the way I want.

Again , thank you for the great help :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:19 pm
by mediavets
ahmad.afef wrote:The leveling thing is more expensive than the tripod itself, so i'll leave it for future expansion if I got lucky and everything worked the way I want.


Yes, it's not cheap. But makes shooting setup easier and quicker.

It's not essential to have the rig completely level anyway when shooting 360x180 panos as it's quite easy to level the pano in the APP/APG Panorama Editor.

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:36 pm
by ahmad.afef
I have some experience with APG and I may say I can survive without the leveling. When the time comes I'll get better hardware :D

Thank you for the great help man :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:36 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:
HansKeesom wrote:Indeed tripod suggestion of mediavets is a good one.

When computer is not fast enough, let me know, I have a 16 GB i7 920 machine which can be accessed by RDP and dropbox.


Oh My God :O !!

Now I wish I have better upload speed :D

We all wish for that. Key is to let dropbox run for a while when uploading and go do something else meanwhile. There will never be enough speed for the impatient ;-)

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:38 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:I have some experience with APG and I may say I can survive without the leveling. When the time comes I'll get better hardware :D

Thank you for the great help man :D


Just try to level with tripod legs, it is harder but do-able

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:31 pm
by ahmad.afef
HansKeesom wrote:
ahmad.afef wrote:I have some experience with APG and I may say I can survive without the leveling. When the time comes I'll get better hardware :D

Thank you for the great help man :D


Just try to level with tripod legs, it is harder but do-able



I'll be doing this for hotels, I think the have some leveled ground already :D
If not i'll do it the old way, by leveling the tripod legs :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:17 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:
HansKeesom wrote:
ahmad.afef wrote:I have some experience with APG and I may say I can survive without the leveling. When the time comes I'll get better hardware :D

Thank you for the great help man :D


Just try to level with tripod legs, it is harder but do-able



I'll be doing this for hotels, I think the have some leveled ground already :D
If not i'll do it the old way, by leveling the tripod legs :D


Already setup to do the nadir shots?

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:25 pm
by ahmad.afef
HansKeesom wrote:Already setup to do the nadir shots?



Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you said, would you please explain it to me.
I know the nadir is the ground pic and I can make by make some -5 degrees with the tripod head or take an image manually and APG will do the rest.

Is there anything else to know?

Thank you =D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:45 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:
HansKeesom wrote:Already setup to do the nadir shots?



Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you said, would you please explain it to me.
I know the nadir is the ground pic and I can make by make some -5 degrees with the tripod head or take an image manually and APG will do the rest.

Is there anything else to know?

Thank you =D


Look at the nodal ninja nadir adapter. Should fit on your NN3 and allow making nadir images straight downward

https://www.google.nl/search?q=nodal+ni ... 24&bih=619

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:53 pm
by ahmad.afef
So you think I need to get this part too?
It's not expensive at all I think it may be a good Idea :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:00 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:So you think I need to get this part too?
It's not expensive at all I think it may be a good Idea :D


I think you answered your own question ;-) All photographers I stitch for use it ;-)

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:09 pm
by ahmad.afef
HansKeesom wrote:
ahmad.afef wrote:So you think I need to get this part too?
It's not expensive at all I think it may be a good Idea :D


I think you answered your own question ;-) All photographers I stitch for use it ;-)



Thanks alot bro :D
I'll be getting it and the head first thing in morning on sunday :D

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:12 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:
HansKeesom wrote:
ahmad.afef wrote:So you think I need to get this part too?
It's not expensive at all I think it may be a good Idea :D


I think you answered your own question ;-) All photographers I stitch for use it ;-)



Thanks alot bro :D
I'll be getting it and the head first thing in morning on sunday :D


Cool, you'll enjoy the set for many years to come!

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:15 pm
by ahmad.afef
Thank you :)
I hope I can work it out since this is my real first time in the business

Re: Help me start

PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:34 pm
by HansKeesom
ahmad.afef wrote:Thank you :)
I hope I can work it out since this is my real first time in the business


Feel free to ask for some answers.

What do you want to do? Sell virtuall tours to local businesses?