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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:55 pm 
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I plan to upgrade and wonder what socket to choose.

1) LGA1155 is money saving and i7 3770K is the top processor in it. There will be no new processors for it. Downside is that it is limited to 32GB RAM.
2) LGA2011 is much more expensive. But it is planned to develop new processors for it for another year or so. And it may have 64GB RAM and have better bandwith with it.

Right now I have a budget for 3770K or 3820. They are almost the same cost. But which is better? Or how much faster than 3770K will be 3930K (for future planing)? It is understandable that between one socket the better proccesor will show the better result. But what about different sockets? And is it important to have good bandwith with RAM?

Maybe some LGA2011 users with top CPUs may share a project with benchmark result on there system. And then I may render the same project on other systems for compare.


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Look for the socket with the most future in it, that take the most expanding, providing you plan upgrade your system within 3 years. If not then just get the cheapest

Good luck

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For benchmarks in panoramic making for both Autopano and PTGui search google for PTGui speedtest.

Run the test on your current system to compare it to your future system or similar systems.

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Lain Iwakura wrote:
I plan to upgrade and wonder what socket to choose.

1) LGA1155 is money saving and i7 3770K is the top processor in it. There will be no new processors for it. Downside is that it is limited to 32GB RAM.
2) LGA2011 is much more expensive. But it is planned to develop new processors for it for another year or so. And it may have 64GB RAM and have better bandwith with it.

Right now I have a budget for 3770K or 3820. They are almost the same cost. But which is better? Or how much faster than 3770K will be 3930K (for future planing)? It is understandable that between one socket the better proccesor will show the better result. But what about different sockets? And is it important to have good bandwith with RAM?

Maybe some LGA2011 users with top CPUs may share a project with benchmark result on there system. And then I may render the same project on other systems for compare.

3770K ... euro or dollar?

EDIT: lol - ok see - the i7-3770K not 3770k money ... ok my error. so maybe the following is above your budget ;) :

1155 or 2011: I would go the 2011 row. and not the i7 but the xeon row.

motherboard:
Asus Z9PE-D16 (E-ATX formfactor)
can be expanded to 2 Intel Xeon using the 26xx series. lets start with one Intel Xeon E5-2630. Can be equiped with up to 510GB RAM. see seperate position
links:
http://www.asus.com/Server_Workstation/Server_Motherboards/Z9PED16/#specifications
http://www.kolor.com/forum/p101630-today-11-04-36#p101630
price: 460euro

Power Supply:
Corsair - AX1200i - 80 PLUS® Bronze Certified Power Supply (1200W) - Digital Managed - each cable seperate pluggable !!!
enough connectors: 1xATX, 2xEPS, 6xPCIe, 12x4Pin, 16xSATA,2xDisk (E-ATX motherboard is in this case compatible, it uses a 24pin and the Corsair power supply also uses the 24pin and not the 20pin, E-ATX motherboard additionally uses 2x4pin and the Corsair PowerSupply offers 12 or them...)
digital managed via software... no unneeded cables in your tower. 1200W enough power for up to 4 nvidia GTX 670
links:
http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supply-units/ax-series-power-supply-units/ax1200i-digital-atx-power-supply-1200-watt-80-plus-platinum-certified-fully-modular-psu.html
price 350dollar

tower case:
Corsair - Obsidian Series - 800D Full-Tower Case
its an E-ATX compatible tower with wonderful features: three seperate climatic zones, cables can be kept on backside of motherboard, a lot space for fans, dust filter and many more
links:
http://www.corsair.com/en/pc-cases/obsidian-series-pc-case/obsidian-series-800d.html
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Corsair-Obsidian-800D-Big-Tower-Window-black::13340.html
price: 300dollar

plus the + 800D SATA 6GB/s Upgrade Kit
links:
http://www.corsair.com/obsidian-series-800d-sata-6gbps-upgrade-kit.html
price: 10dollar

plus (not needed, just replacement parts 100% fitting screws etc) the 800D Screw Kit (SKU# CC800D-SCREWKIT)
link:
http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/obsidian-series-800d-screw-kit.html
price: 8 dollar

plus the 800D/700D Front Panel USB 3.0 Upgrade Kit (SKU# CC800D-USB3KIT)
link:
http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/obsidian-series-800d-700d-front-panel-usb-3-0-upgrade-kit.html
price: 15dollar

Fans:
2 set (4fans): Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fan Twin
links:
http://www.corsair.com/us/cpu-cooling-kits/air-series-fans/air-series-sp120-high-performance-edition-high-static-pressure-120mm-fan-twin-pack.html
price: 60dollar

3 x Air Series SP140 Quiet Edition High Airflow 140mm Fan
links:
http://www.corsair.com/us/cpu-cooling-kits/air-series-fans/air-series-af140-quiet-edition-high-airflow-140mm-fan.html
price: 60dollar

and Watercooling for your 2 Xeon CPUs:
2 x Corsair - Hydro Seriesâ„¢ H80i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (cooler, radiator and dual fan, free of service no water refilling etc.)
(I did check with Corsair Support: the fit on Xeon 2011 Socket)
links:
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel,nr,440380,CORSAIR,H80I_HIGH_PERFLIQUID_CPUCOOLE.htm
price: 180dollar

Memory:
4 x Kingston - KVR16R11D4/16 - 1.5V - 16GB DDR3
certified for the motherboard above. I would start with 4 moldules, in sum 64GB and motherboard is in this case expandable to 256GB)
links:
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel,nr,415090,KINGSTON,16GB_DDR3_1600MHz_ECC_Reg_CL11.htm
price: 460euro

CPU:
1 x INTEL Xeon X5 2630 (6 Cores,12 threads,2.3Ghz, overclosk 2.8Ghz, 15MB L3Cache)
links:
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel,nr,402233,INTEL,Xeon_E5-2630_2300MHz_15M_Cache_LGA2011-0.htm
price: 550euro

SSD:
2 x Corsair Neutron Series - GTX 240GB SATA 3 6Gb/s SSD - 555 MB/s sequential read — 511 MB/s sequential write
(using the 2 SSDs as RAID0 for additional performance; not used for installing OS, just for autopano usage)
links:
http://www.corsair.com/us/ssd/neutron-series-gtx-ssd/neutron-series-gtx-240gb-sata-3-6gbps-ssd.html
price: 454dollar

GPU:
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW+ 4GB w/Backplate (P/N: 04G-P4-3673-KR) (overclocked by manufacturer 24/7 usage)
links:
http://eu.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=04G-P4-2671-KR
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel,nr,440813,EVGA,Geforce_GTX_670_FTW_4GB_GDDR5.htm
price: 860euro

SATA:
6 x WD Caviar Green 2TB HDD IntelliPower min.5400rpm 6Gb/s serial ATA sATA 64MB cache - WD20EARX
RAID 5: 5 discs (better performance than 3 disc RAID5) + 1 Hotspare
links: -
price: around 90euro per disc, so in sum: 540euro

OS:
MS 1x Windows 8 PRO 64bit DVD OEM
price: 120euro

in sum:
3731,-€ without SSDs
4073,-€ with SSDs

with this setup you've prepared for future. if RAM is getting cheaper you can go easily up to 256GB and even up to 512GB (im money does not play any issues) and you can easily double the power by adding a second Xeon. and if future autopano versions do better use GPU than you even can upgrade here by adding 2 more GTX cards.

Liebe Gruesse,
Georg

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Want to delve into CPU's ? Here are some comparisons for raw power:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-performance-comparison,3370-14.html
(no need to scrap my 980X for a while :) )

APG use the max CPU-power only on parts of the process. Most of the process it relies on RAM/swappping to the pagefile/disk-access etc.
I would rather spend some money on maximum amount of RAM and on SSD-raid/Revodrive then the latest most high-end CPU.

Leif

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:19 pm 
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leifs wrote:
Want to delve into CPU's ? Here are some comparisons for raw power:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-performance-comparison,3370-14.html
(no need to scrap my 980X for a while :) )

APG use the max CPU-power only on parts of the process. Most of the process it relies on RAM/swappping to the pagefile/disk-access etc.
I would rather spend some money on maximum amount of RAM and on SSD-raid/Revodrive then the latest most high-end CPU.

Leif

I's second that . CPU at 100% happens only somtimes while rendering and that is when one is likely not behind computer.

Optimal is to have as much RAM as needed so there will be no swapping, which can be calculated based on the nr of photos and their resolution.
See for calculation http://www.kolor.com/forum/p87033-2011-08-11-11-53-58#p87033

Let's not forget GPU-memory. Since I have 4 GB of GPU memory instead of 512MB I spent half the time behind computer then what I used to do.

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