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Following Judy-A in http://www.autopano.net/forum/t9285-app-cloud-problems
The cloud problem is particular problem in a larger class of problems : image areas where no CP should be located for some reason.
Possible reasons:
- moving objets like clouds, sea waves and running water, boats, cars or peoples, trees on windy days (leaves included), etc (should I include wind mils sails, power lines, snow flakes and flying bugs?)
- area deprived of any texture like blue sky, clouds (again), mist, white ceilings, etc
- repetitive textures like tiled roofs and many more
- image corners when distortion is strong or difficult to correct
- nearby objects where parallax shift is very high (the ground next to the tripod legs or next to the photographer feet when no tripod is used is a common example)
Being able to watch all the CP (from any link) on a given image displayed in the CP editor would be useful, being able to delete the bad ones (from any link) using the usual delete tools still more usefull.
A less important but interesting information would be to know the amount of existing CPs on a given image and whether or not they are located in a restricted area (something to be avoided when possible because this forbid roll optimization and tends to cause line breaks.)
Rather than using the usual selection rectangle to select a particular region, being able to use it to select a color range (like in Photoshop Select -Color Range tool) could be useful, too.
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Another related tool would be to display all the CPs on the pano, and allow erasing of some. but what happens if there are so many CPs the picture/pano is hidden?
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hankkarl wrote:
Another related tool would be to display all the CPs on the pano, and allow erasing of some.
I like that idea. One could use a lasso tool to scoop up all the points in the clouds or water and delete them all at once.
Judy
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hankkarl wrote:
Another related tool would be to display all the CPs on the pano, and allow erasing of some.
Displaying all CP when a single source image is displayed in the CP editor would not require UI changes and the delete tools still exist.
Beside that, erasing CPs at the pano level rather than at the source images level would be more straighforward...
hankkarl wrote:
but what happens if there are so many CPs the picture/pano is hidden?
Just zoom ! (I'm really upset by the 100% zooming speed in the editor preview.)
Judy-A wrote:
One could use a lasso tool to scoop up all the points in the clouds or water and delete them all at once.
Having a lasso tool could be used for some other new features like selecting the best source image for a given pano area or on the contrary equivalent to pre-recorded TIFF masks... (there should be at least two kinds of TIFF masks, one being used to completely mask an area, one other to forbid CP, but TIFF masks are no more than a temporary workaround tool
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The truth is that implementing something like Photoshop layers at the pano editor level would be very useful but that designing the user interface for that is a real challenge !
Last edited by GURL (2010-07-01 09:00:03)
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If done on the pano level, APP doesn't need to show CPs, it could just show a mask.
And on an individual image edit, besides a CP mask, I'd like a "tourist inserter/remover" mask pair - one mask that completely removes the pixels, another that prefers them. Both of these should prohibit CPs.
Last edited by hankkarl (2010-07-01 18:22:22)
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I want a lasso tool. Asked for it before.
They are used to delete points from match moving software, which is muliplaner.
Last edited by gerardm (2010-07-02 06:04:30)
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