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#1 2010-05-20 16:20:31

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Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Hi!

I've received my Merlin panohead just a few days ago and today I've found the time to make my first test.
I use a Nikon D300 with a Nikkor 300/4,5-5,6 lens, the camera is mounted in landscape mode on the Merlin. I'm a Windows XP user with the latest developer version of Papywizard on my PC.
I've tried to make a landscape panorama of a picture we have at home, Papywizard calculated the number of necessary pictures.
At the shooting (6 rows with 7 pix each, all shot with manual focus and in manual camera mode) I noticed on the Papywizards screen that the cross sign (which stands for the panohead's position) that moves from pic to pic didn't move at the center of the picture every time, and as you can see, there are some gaps in the panorama.
Before the shooting I've set the left and right corner a little outside to the real corners of the picture, but as you can see, the head in each row moved a little bit to the left so that the lower right corner has not been shot anymore.
What's wrong here? Is is my fault or did I miss to configure something?

Thank you very much

Andreas


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#2 2010-05-20 17:14:30

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

- what firmware version has your Merlin? you can find the info in the PW logfile


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#3 2010-05-20 17:54:59

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Seems to be 020681.

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#4 2010-05-20 18:05:11

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

You shot inside a room using a 300mm lens on a 1.6crop camera. Are you sure to have hit the NPP?
At such close distances related to the focal length the NPP better should be set very precise.
How did you set APP/G? Which focal-length did you set?

That crosshair on your display isn´t exactly related to the real moves of the head - there´s no feed-back.
Based on calculations only.

But Paul´s right: there are issues with the firmware some time.

best, Klaus


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#5 2010-05-20 18:26:09

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Hello all ...

Strange...
But this problem seems very similiar to the problem of "baba"
http://www.autopano.net/forum/t8905-suc … ll-trouble

Both 2 with Firmware version 01.06.81 who is normally a "good" version .
Both with Papywizard 2.1.9-1
Both 2 in Mosaic mode !!!
Both 2 from "Up-Left corner to Down-Right corner"
Both with small displacement

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#6 2010-05-20 18:29:32

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Klaus, Papywizard reads back the position from the Merlin... But, as I said in the other post, it doesn't check the final position, assuming the Merlin does its work. Which doesn't seem to be the case here.

I have to make tests (but I lost my triggering shutter cable!)...


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#7 2010-05-20 19:48:51

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

i have seen this bevor wink try to set the corners in opposite directions ( 1. bottom right   2.upper left ) at least 0ne black hole less.
baba

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#8 2010-05-21 00:37:20

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Hi!

Thanks for your help, I've made another test this evening, unfortunately still from upper left to bottom right, I didn't read baba's post before.
I still have made a pano inside a room, but I increased the distance to about 3.5 meters.
It's not better now, as you can see.
I didn't make any NPP optimization, and NPP is shurely not the problem here.

    The question is
: why does the Merlin not reach the bottom right corner anymore that I've set before shooting?

Thank you again

Andreas


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#9 2010-05-21 01:46:15

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

lemon wrote:

Hi!

Thanks for your help, I've made another test this evening, unfortunately still from upper left to bottom right, I didn't read baba's post before.
I still have made a pano inside a room, but I increased the distance to about 3.5 meters.
It's not better now, as you can see.
I didn't make any NPP optimization, and NPP is shurely not the problem here.

    The question is
: why does the Merlin not reach the bottom right corner anymore that I've set before shooting?

Thank you again

Andreas

What happens is instead you define the mosaic by entering values for Total FOV, or for Nb. picts?


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#10 2010-05-21 14:35:48

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

@baba: I've tried to set edge 0 to bottom right and edge 1 to top left, but the Merlin anyway started with the top left corner. You can see the result below.

@mediavets: same thing here, on every line the Merlin "walks" a little more to the left. The second pano has been taken by setting the FOV manually.

After the shooting I compared the bottom right corner with the one I used for the setup, and the setup's one was more to the right!


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#11 2010-05-21 15:51:08

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

There is a param in the config to choose the starting corner. That's why the buttons are no longer called start/end, but corner0/corner1...


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#12 2010-05-21 16:24:26

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Ok, I've changed that parameter.
Then I programmed first the bottom right corner, afterwards the upper left one. The first image has been taken when setting the bottom right corner, the second one shows the first shot made automatically by the Merlin after reaching his starting position.


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#13 2010-05-21 16:55:29

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

What is the resulting shift angle between the 2 shots? It does not seem to be very high. Don't forget that the Merlin accuracy (mechanics), is 0.3 - 0.5°...

Could you make the following test: create a preset with 2 positions (distance < 6°). Then run this preset several times (using the repeat feature in the Timer tab). Do you see the head shift more and more?

Repeat this test with a distance between the 2 shots > 8°...


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#14 2010-05-21 17:31:05

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

This does not appear to be related to the version of firmware; or maybe we already knew that?

My Merlin has firmware version 010981.

This first screenshot shows an 8x8 mosaic shot with focal set at 300mm in PW 2.1.19-1.

The second screenshot shows an 8x8 mosiac shot with focal length set to 50mm in PW 2.1.19-1.

Same initial point for both.

Mosaic defined by Nb. picts, shooting starts from top left.

Shot with D40 1.5x crop sensor using Nikkor 50mm lens.

PW 2.1.19-1 running on N800. Papymerlin BT device on Merlin.

APG 2.07 on WinXP32 with SP3 using Papywizard Import filter.


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#15 2010-05-21 18:10:46

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

lemon wrote:

Ok, I've changed that parameter.
Then I programmed first the bottom right corner, afterwards the upper left one. The first image has been taken when setting the bottom right corner, the second one shows the first shot made automatically by the Merlin after reaching his starting position.

It´s a non-aligned NPP i bet. The EXIfs tell you used a 300mm.
At such a short distance the NPP should be VERY precisely aligned.

Did you? You can struggle around with Papy - i guess it wouldn´t
help unless the optical setting is correct.

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#16 2010-05-21 19:18:01

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

I don't think this is a NPP issue... I'm more and more thinking there is a bug in Papywizard!

Could someone make some tests with previous versions?


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#17 2010-05-21 20:39:13

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

fma38 wrote:

I don't think this is a NPP issue... I'm more and more thinking there is a bug in Papywizard!

really? but the NPP thing in my eyes can´t be correct - or how can you align a NPP for a 300mm
inside at such close distances at a Merlin? Ok - i read about landscape-orientation,
but the body has to be very much backward and that would produce much weight
to the vertical axis.
Or did the OP have a counterweight attached?

I´m using a 300mm with Merlin and Papy quite often - but at longer distances.
And even here the NPP alignment makes a difference at 10-20m!

Papy then didn´t produce comparable errors like the one shown here - or i didn´t recognize it.

But my Merlin is about 3 Years old - maybe i was lucky . . . cool

best, Klaus

I´ll give it a try tomorrow. Challenges me . . tonguecool

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#18 2010-05-21 22:25:04

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

fma38 wrote:

I don't think this is a NPP issue... I'm more and more thinking there is a bug in Papywizard!

Could someone make some tests with previous versions?

2.1.17-1 shows identical problems.

How far back do you think I should go next in trying earlier versions?

First screenshot is 8x8 mosaic with focal length set at 50mm.

Second screenshot is 8x8 mosaic with focal length set at 300mm.


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#19 2010-05-21 22:30:42

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Andrew, can you post the related xml data file of the last pano? And the log file too?


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#20 2010-05-21 23:05:34

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Here's the XML data file:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<papywizard version="b">
    <header>
        <general>
            <title>
                Here goes the title
            </title>
            <gps>
                Here goes the location
            </gps>
            <comment>
                Generated by Papywizard 2.1.17
            </comment>
        </general>
        <shooting mode="mosaic">
            <headOrientation>
                up
            </headOrientation>
            <cameraOrientation>
                portrait
            </cameraOrientation>
            <stabilizationDelay>
                0.5
            </stabilizationDelay>
            <startTime>
                2010-05-21_20h04m43s
            </startTime>
            <endTime>
                2010-05-21_20h12m49s
            </endTime>
        </shooting>
        <camera>
            <timeValue>
                1.0
            </timeValue>
            <bracketing nbPicts="1"/>
            <sensor coef="1.5" ratio="3:2"/>
        </camera>
        <lens type="rectilinear">
            <focal>
                300.0
            </focal>
        </lens>
        <mosaic>
            <nbPicts pitch="8" yaw="8"/>
            <overlap minimum="0.25" pitch="0.25" yaw="0.25"/>
        </mosaic>
    </header>
    <shoot>
        <pict bracket="1" id="1">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h04m52s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="2">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h04m58s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.3"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="3">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m04s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="4">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="5">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="1.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="6">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m24s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="7">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m31s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="6.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="8">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m37s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="9">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m48s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="10">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m56s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="11">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m03s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="3.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="12">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m10s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="13">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="14">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m24s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="15">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m31s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="16">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m39s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-7.9"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="17">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m50s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-7.9"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="18">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m57s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="19">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m04s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="20">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="21">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="22">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m25s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="23">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m33s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="5.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="24">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m40s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="25">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m50s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="26">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m58s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="27">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m05s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="28">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m12s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="29">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m21s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="30">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m28s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="31">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m35s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-6.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="32">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m42s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="33">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m53s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="34">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m01s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="35">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m08s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="36">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m15s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="37">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m22s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="38">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m29s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="3.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="39">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m36s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="40">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m42s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="41">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m53s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="42">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m00s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="43">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m07s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="44">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m14s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="45">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m20s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="46">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m27s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="47">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m35s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="48">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m43s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="49">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m54s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="50">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m02s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="51">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m08s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="52">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m15s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-0.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="53">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m22s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="54">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m30s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="55">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m38s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="6.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="56">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m44s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="57">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m56s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="58">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m03s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="59">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="60">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m18s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="61">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m26s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="62">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m33s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="63">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m41s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="64">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m49s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
    </shoot>
</papywizard>

I didn't save the log - is there still some way it can be retrieved?

If not I'll just do the shoot again tomorrow - what level of logging do you need?

Last edited by mediavets (2010-05-21 23:15:46)


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#21 2010-05-22 00:28:32

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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

I think I found the problem; tell me if I am wrong...

As you can see in the xml file, which now reflects the real positions the head reached, the positions are correct (±0.2°). My idea is that you didn't set up the head correctly: the yaw axis is not really vertical.


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#22 2010-05-22 01:50:00

mediavets
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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

fma38 wrote:

I think I found the problem; tell me if I am wrong...

As you can see in the xml file, which now reflects the real positions the head reached, the positions are correct (±0.2°). My idea is that you didn't set up the head correctly: the yaw axis is not really vertical.

Hmmmm.........you are not wrong. I'm sorry to have merely added to the confusion.

I set up with care this time and here's the result, this time with focal length set to 200mm.

PW 2.1.17-1 on  N800. I will repeat it with 2.1.19-1 just to see whther it makes any difference but I don't expect it to.

Of course this doesn't really seem to explain by Boris (baba) is having such trouble with his system.

Here's the XML:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<papywizard version="b">
    <header>
        <general>
            <title>
                Here goes the title
            </title>
            <gps>
                Here goes the location
            </gps>
            <comment>
                Generated by Papywizard 2.1.17
            </comment>
        </general>
        <shooting mode="mosaic">
            <headOrientation>
                up
            </headOrientation>
            <cameraOrientation>
                portrait
            </cameraOrientation>
            <stabilizationDelay>
                0.5
            </stabilizationDelay>
            <startTime>
                2010-05-21_20h04m43s
            </startTime>
            <endTime>
                2010-05-21_20h12m49s
            </endTime>
        </shooting>
        <camera>
            <timeValue>
                1.0
            </timeValue>
            <bracketing nbPicts="1"/>
            <sensor coef="1.5" ratio="3:2"/>
        </camera>
        <lens type="rectilinear">
            <focal>
                300.0
            </focal>
        </lens>
        <mosaic>
            <nbPicts pitch="8" yaw="8"/>
            <overlap minimum="0.25" pitch="0.25" yaw="0.25"/>
        </mosaic>
    </header>
    <shoot>
        <pict bracket="1" id="1">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h04m52s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="2">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h04m58s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.3"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="3">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m04s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="4">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="5">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="1.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="6">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m24s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="7">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m31s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="6.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="8">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m37s
            </time>
            <position pitch="12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="9">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m48s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="10">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h05m56s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="11">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m03s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="3.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="12">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m10s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="13">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="14">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m24s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="15">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m31s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="16">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m39s
            </time>
            <position pitch="8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-7.9"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="17">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m50s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-7.9"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="18">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h06m57s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="19">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m04s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="20">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="21">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m17s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="22">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m25s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="23">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m33s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="5.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="24">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m40s
            </time>
            <position pitch="5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="25">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m50s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="26">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h07m58s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="27">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m05s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="28">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m12s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="29">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m21s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="30">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m28s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="31">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m35s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-6.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="32">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m42s
            </time>
            <position pitch="1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="33">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h08m53s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="34">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m01s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="35">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m08s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.5"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="36">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m15s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="37">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m22s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="38">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m29s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="3.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="39">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m36s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="40">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m42s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-1.7" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="41">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h09m53s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="42">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m00s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="43">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m07s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="44">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m14s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="45">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m20s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="46">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m27s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="47">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m35s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.6"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="48">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m43s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-5.1" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="49">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h10m54s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="50">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m02s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="51">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m08s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="52">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m15s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="-0.8"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="53">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m22s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="54">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m30s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="55">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m38s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="6.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="56">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m44s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-8.6" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="57">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h11m56s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="8.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="58">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m03s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="59">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m11s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="3.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="60">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m18s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="1.2"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="61">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m26s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-1.1"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="62">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m33s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-3.4"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="63">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m41s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-5.7"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="64">
            <time>
                2010-05-21_20h12m49s
            </time>
            <position pitch="-12.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-8.0"/>
        </pict>
    </shoot>
</papywizard>

If you want the log I'll email it as it's too large to post in a forum message; the forum software won't accept it.

Here's the screenshot:


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Last edited by mediavets (2010-05-22 01:53:18)


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
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#23 2010-05-22 02:28:15

mediavets
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From: Isleham, Cambridgeshire, UK.
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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

Now I don't know what to think....

Here's the result using PW 2.1.19-1.

Focal length 200mm, 8 x 8 mosaic set via Nb. picts as before, slightly different Initial position.

Head definitely as vertical as before.

Here's the XML:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<papywizard version="c">
    <header>
        <general>
            <title>
                Here goes the title
            </title>
            <gps>
                Here goes the location
            </gps>
            <comment>
                Generated by Papywizard 2.1.19
            </comment>
        </general>
        <shooting mode="mosaic">
            <headOrientation>
                up
            </headOrientation>
            <cameraOrientation>
                portrait
            </cameraOrientation>
            <stabilizationDelay>
                0.5
            </stabilizationDelay>
            <counter>
                002
            </counter>
            <startTime>
                2010-05-22_01h03m49s
            </startTime>
            <endTime>
                2010-05-22_01h13m43s
            </endTime>
        </shooting>
        <camera>
            <timeValue>
                2.5
            </timeValue>
            <bracketing nbPicts="1"/>
            <sensor coef="1.5" ratio="3:2"/>
        </camera>
        <lens type="rectilinear">
            <focal>
                200.0
            </focal>
        </lens>
        <mosaic>
            <nbPicts pitch="8" yaw="8"/>
            <overlap minimum="0.25" pitch="0.25" yaw="0.25"/>
        </mosaic>
    </header>
    <shoot>
        <pict bracket="1" id="1">
            <time>
                2010-05-22_01h03m59s
            </time>
            <position pitch="18.0" roll="90.0" yaw="-12.0"/>
        </pict>
        <pict bracket="1" id="2">
            <time>
                2010-05-22_01h04m08s
            </time>
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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#24 2010-05-22 08:39:51

fma38
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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

In the xml data file, all pictures on a column are at the same yaw value; so I don't understand why they are not aligned on the pano...

Alexandre, are we missing something obvious, here?


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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#25 2010-05-22 11:56:23

fma38
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Re: Merlin does not center correctly when taking shots

I just made some tests, and I can't reproduce the problem. Even if I don't setup the bubble correclty, I can't see such shifting! The only little shift I get is the backlash (0.3°).

BTW, I didn't used the xml import fitler. Did you? If so, could you try without it?


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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