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#1 2009-11-08 16:13:27

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macro panorama ?

Besides photographing landscape panoramas I really like to photograph flowers at minimal dof with my macro lens.
Today I tried to combine both topics: I took five photos of a single flower and calculated a first "macro-panorama".

Has someone else ever tried this?

Thanks in advance for your comments and remarks.

Best wishes, Thorsten.


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#2 2009-11-08 16:26:53

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Re: macro panorama ?

beautiful shot!

i tried a macro pano years ago (oly e10)
http://www.panographie.net/panorama/Wid … menmakro1/


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#3 2009-11-08 16:58:04

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Re: macro panorama ?

Xcellent!

Very nice, how big is the image?

Henrik

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#4 2009-11-08 17:55:05

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Re: macro panorama ?

Thanks for your comments!

@machart: Your macro panorama and your website are really great!
@Henrik: The picture is about 6800 * 2500 pixels.

Best wishes, Thorsten.

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#5 2009-11-15 05:07:50

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Re: macro panorama ?

Hi Thorsten,

Macro panoramas have been around for a while.
Here is a link to all macropanoramas uploaded to gigapan.org:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/most_popular/1/?q=macro

These panoramas include a number of images that were taken with a macro lens, but are not "macro" panoramas.

A few of mine:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/20451/
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/12493/ - a fun experiment
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/11397/ - another experiment
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/10929/ - art documentation
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/10880/ - follow the link in the snapshot to go to the next level, then repeat to get to the macro panorama.
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/5876/ - a pano that became lunch ;^)
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/174/ - hand held, Olympus E-500, 35mm (70mm equiv) macro, stitched with AutoStitch.

aloha,
Richard

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#6 2009-11-15 05:19:58

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Re: macro panorama ?

A very arresting image. Have you thought of focus stacking the centre of the flower?

Mike.


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#7 2009-11-15 14:17:39

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Re: macro panorama ?

so as a 'by the way', whats is generally accepted to be the point at which a photo becomes counted as 'macro' rather than a normal ranged shot?

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#8 2009-11-15 18:04:14

Apapane
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Re: macro panorama ?

wjh31 wrote:

so as a 'by the way', whats is generally accepted to be the point at which a photo becomes counted as 'macro' rather than a normal ranged shot?

The images I refer to as macropanoramas are composites of a series/grid of individual frames shot at macro resolution and stitched together as a single image.  Does the fact that the images are fairly large, and may not look "macro", really matter?

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#9 2009-11-16 19:09:43

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Re: macro panorama ?

Thanks to all of you for your comments!

@Richard: Thanks for the hint concerning the other macro-panoramas; there is a lot to explore.
@Mike: Thanks for your remark concerning focus-stacking. I really have no idea about that, but I will try to find something about that in net, I think.
@wjh31: From my point of view taking a panorama is the process of taking different single images and stitching them together to a single image. In case of landscape panoramas this will result in a wide-angled view. You are right: in case of macro-panoramas the same picture might be taken by a single shot, but this picture for instance could not be printed as large as a macro-panorama could be printed.

Thanks a lot once again.

Best wishes, Thorsten.

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#10 2009-11-17 22:33:32

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Re: macro panorama ?

i think there had been a slight miss-comunication in my question. I did not mean to imply that stiching more photots would make a macro photo into not a macro photo. It was meant as more of a gerneral photography question. say you are shoting a flower, how close would you have to be before you would call it a macro image of a flower rather than a 'normal' image of a flower

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#11 2009-11-18 02:03:32

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Re: macro panorama ?

wjh31 wrote:

i think there had been a slight miss-comunication in my question. I did not mean to imply that stiching more photots would make a macro photo into not a macro photo. It was meant as more of a gerneral photography question. say you are shoting a flower, how close would you have to be before you would call it a macro image of a flower rather than a 'normal' image of a flower

How large is the flower, or any other subject? ;^)

I'm thinking about information quality/detail (my botanist side & gigapanner/explorability persona), and about artistic quality, although the two are certainly not mutually exclusive.

See the images below, that I hope will clarify (or further muddy) my take on the issue, at least from a single image perspective.

Geranium multiflorum - single flower - 50mm lens plus 7mm extension tube.  the flower is only about 3 cm across.
Geranium multiflorum - endemic to East Maui - habit photograph - 2150 meters, NE slope of Haleakala Crater, Maui

Above images - Olympus OM-4 and Kodachrome 64!!

Theridion grallator - Hawaiian Happy Face Spider - 1220 meters, Mt. Ka`ala, O`ahu
The spider, with legs extended, is about 5 mm
Olympus E-500 (8 Mpixels), 35mm (70mm equivalent) macro lens, PLUS 25 mm extension tube.

Richard


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#12 2009-11-18 22:36:23

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@Machart,  I love your panorama of the flowers.  The colors and textures are great.  It also seems very sharp.

If you want to achieve a much larger depth of field, you might use the tilt of a tilt shift lens to change the focal plane as you would with the camera movements {tilt, shift, swing } of a view camera.  Although you will not achieve a 1:1 magnification ratio you can do close up photography.  Many lenses have a magnification of 1:2

Magnifcation ratio = total extension / focal length

Tilt shift lens rental
http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon-t … /for-canon
http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/nikon-4 … /for-nikon

Closeup and Macro Photography book
Cyrill Harnischmacher authored the book Closeup Shooting: A Guide to Closeup, Tabletop, and Macro Photography which is published by rockynook in 2007.
http://www.amazon.com/Closeup-Shooting- … amp;sr=8-1

Unfortunately bellows systems like the Horseman which allow you to use medium format lenses with contemporary DSLR camera bodies are very expensive.  Lesser know bellow kits that are exclusively for variable extension and precise control of distance are much less expensive.  Aputure did offer an inexpensive Macro bellows and rail system, but they no longer offer this product.

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