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#1 2009-02-14 05:10:42

dewynter
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Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Hi all,
I really stuck with sine-wave horizon on a few panos. Here is a crop:

http://lj.genkin.org/pics/sine-wave-horizon_1.jpg

I drew a cyan line just to show the problem. The "How to straighten a panorama" article on Autopano wiki didn't help. Tried "Automatic horizon", "Central point" and "Vertical lines" - nothing helped with the problem. Tried to add control points to the horizon - the Autopano just doesn't want to add any. The main problem is that horizon on each image was curved by Autopano. Here is the example:

http://lj.genkin.org/pics/sine-wave-horizon_2.jpg

The original image with straight horizon (not leveled by straight) is on left and the Autopano image for stitching in on the right. Gee wiz it was just wide angle shot but not a fish-eye one!!! What happened? Sure if the Autopano curved the horizon on each photo then it's impossible to make it straight on the pano. And it happens on almost all panos when the horizon is visible and the shot is made with wide angle lens.

I tried PTGui - it made straight horizon but it has another problem so I don't want to use it.

Read all Autopano doco, did a search this forum and Internet with no luck. Any ideas how to solve this problem? Appreciate any help.

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#2 2009-02-14 06:52:18

Tim.Lewis
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Hi dewynter

I have run across something similar at times and found the solution was in making sure all the EXIF data was correct.

Cheers

Tim


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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#3 2009-02-14 08:35:56

dewynter
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Hi Tim,
Just double-checked - EXIF seems to be fine. And Autopano recognised the focal length, camera, aperture, shutter speed and correctly re-calculated focal length to 35mm equiv.

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#4 2009-02-14 08:53:37

Tim.Lewis
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Hi dewynter

I should have said, it was that the EXIF said that the lens was fisheye instead of standard, that caused the problem.

Cheers

Tim


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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#5 2009-02-14 09:50:25

fma38
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Do you have CP at first plan (water?)? Try to remove them, and let only those near the horizon.


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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#6 2009-02-14 10:03:23

dewynter
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Tim, it's recognised as standard lens, not fish-eye.

fma38, thanks! Will try and advise about results.

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#7 2009-02-14 22:19:07

dewynter
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

fma38, you are a genius! That is exactly what I needed!!! Thank you very much!!!!
After that Autopano made almost perfect image that I barely touched in Photoshop (I'm not talking about colour correction).

Ok... here exactly what I did.

1. Created a new project form the scratch.
2. Went through all images and images pairs in Control Point editor and added CPs for horizon. Autopano immediately started complaining about bad RMS.
3. Went through all images and images pairs and deleted all CPs for foreground.
4. Run Optimizer.
5. Deleted some bad links I missed and added a few more CPs for horizon.
6. Run Optimizer again.
7. Straighten horizon and put correct Center point using standard buttons. After that Autopano advised that the global RMS is good.
8. Crop and render.

Now I've got perfect result!

fma38, thanks a lot again!!! You've just saved my life!!! :-)

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#8 2009-02-14 23:07:06

fma38
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

smile


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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#9 2009-02-15 01:27:46

Tim.Lewis
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

dewynter wrote:

Now I've got perfect result!

Hi dewynter

We would love to see it!

Cheers

Tim


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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#10 2009-02-15 14:59:08

klausesser
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

dewynter wrote:

fma38, you are a genius!

Yep - that´s what came to my mind several times . . . . wink

Surely he´s a wizard . . . . cool

best, Klaus


If you want something you´ve never had,
then you´ve got to do something you´ve never done.

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#11 2009-02-19 12:32:40

dewynter
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Re: Stuck with sine-wave horizon

Tim.Lewis wrote:

dewynter wrote:

Now I've got perfect result!

We would love to see it!

No worries, mate! I just posted a few in Gallery.


klausesser wrote:

dewynter wrote:

fma38, you are a genius!

Yep - that´s what came to my mind several times . . . . wink
Surely he´s a wizard . . . . cool

True, true. smile

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