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#1 2009-01-25 19:03:17

D_Clear
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AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

I have tried just about every combination of preferences, and am getting crashes on every attempt at large panos.

Any help is appreciated

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#2 2009-01-25 19:19:32

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

D_Clear wrote:

I have tried just about every combination of preferences, and am getting crashes on every attempt at large panos.

Any help is appreciated

You are referring to the issues discussed previously in this thread, right?:
http://www.autopano.net/forum/p37561-ye … -11#p37561


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
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#3 2009-01-25 19:50:03

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

To be honest I'm not sure if it's the same issues exactly.

I am beginning to suspect there is an upper size limit on what this software can work-with. The files which do succeed are layered psb's, and are upwards of 5 Gigs.

The owner's manual gives some advice regarding preferences for large panos, which seems counter intuitive in some ways, the way I interpret it they are making recommendations such as reducing cache-size for example, asa workaround for smaller computers.

In my case I am running what is likely near the top-end of technology and still experiencing problems.

That being said, I seem to have less crashes if I completely restart my computer after every pano.

In the end, there may be some of my preferences which are not yet optimized, but so-far have been unable to get definitive + comprehensive answers to the question.

At this point I just want some accurate information, perhaps this software is not capable of delivering what I'm asking.

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#4 2009-01-25 20:12:50

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

What output format are you selecting when it crashes?

What is the resolution of the stitched image you are attempting to render?

IIRC you are attempting to stitch and render 11 x 255MB 16-bit TIFF images each of which has a resolution of 5428 X 7230 pixesl is that correct?


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#5 2009-01-25 20:41:19

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

My selection is psd/psb because I want all the layers - in addition to the rendered/flattened layer.
I am setting the resolution at 300 dpi - which is the same as my original files.

Yes you are correct regarding the size and number of files I am stitching, though I did originally overstate the size slightly in error, after double checking I see they are closer to 225 megabytes each. 11 is the maximum I try to stitch, the orientation is identical - that is they are all vertical 'plates'

Interestingly, the crashes usually happen at the same point in the stitch, at the start of the Smartblend stage of processing.

I am prepared to set prefs to make the process slower if that would help, but my ambition is for best quality and hopefully more stability/less crashes, it's a pain when you can't trust a software to leave it alone.

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#6 2009-01-25 22:23:12

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

D_Clear wrote:

I have tried just about every combination of preferences, and am getting crashes on every attempt at large panos.

Any help is appreciated

Hi!

Could you please precisely tell what´s your hardware and what´s the goal of your efforts?

What do you want to do with your pano?
Do you really NEED 300dpi and 16bit TIFF of that size?

What´s your machine? How much processors, RAM, Diskspace? Camera?

Without some more information everybody just can guess what´s up.

best, Klaus

"At this point I just want some accurate information, perhaps this software is not capable of delivering what I'm asking."

well - it´s up to you to deliver "some accurate information" first . . . The "software is capable to deliver" the things which are really need very well . .

Just look at the "Harlem 13 Gigapixel" http://www.harlem-13-gigapixels.com/ as an example.

Last edited by klausesser (2009-01-25 22:29:34)


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#7 2009-01-26 00:57:52

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

I am on the latest Intel Mac Pro running Leopard (10.5.6) with 10 Gig of Ram.

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#8 2009-01-26 00:59:17

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

I shoot with a Phase P45+ on a Contax 645 with (in this particular circumstance a 45mm lens) and a Manfrotto 303SPH Virtual Reality and Multi-Row Pan Head.

The stitch in question is 11 225 megabyte files, each of them in 16 bit mode - it is essential that I accomplish the stitch with these dimensions and bit-rate due to heavy post-production and huge final print-size dimensions.

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#9 2009-01-26 09:21:02

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Re: AutoPano Pro 1.4.2 Keeps Crashing

Hi.
Achieving such size on the mac platform should still work with 32bits version, but it will be easier with the 64bits release. This one should come out soon ( within 2 weeks at most ).
Now, just a notice about smartblend : this is a really heavy algorithm and it's always complicated to apply it on big panorama. Harlem-13-gigapixels was rendered in multiband and this will work. Smartblend on big panorama needs extra attention on harddrive. Some customers uses dedicated Raid-10 drives to achieve the rendering with smartblend.

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