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#1 2008-10-02 07:18:24

emess
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Default yaw, pitch, roll?

Hi all,

a friend of mine is shooting panos with a Canon 400D and a Sigma 8 fisheye lens, slanted (!). There is one set of images for you to play with ,-). . He is shooting 6 around. When the panos are detected, the result looks like shown in the first screenshot.

When I apply "roll 56" to the whole pano, the result looks much better - second screenshot.

Now, sometimes he shoots up to 15 panos a day. After the panorama detection he would like to judge the previews to see which panos are worth it to process further. And for this purpose it´s a bit nerve wrecking to open every pano in the editor window and apply "roll 56" to every pano manually.

Unfortunately I don´t know a quick solution for his needs, does anybody of you?

Regards, Martin


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#2 2008-10-02 11:04:56

mediavets
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Re: Default yaw, pitch, roll?

I suggest he abandons his current technique and instead shoots 4 around not rolled/slanted but with a small upwards pitch to ensure adequate cover and blending at the zenith - which it appears he does not achieve with his current rolled shooting technique because he is not also applying a small upwards pitch.Then he will not have to rotate the stitched pano.

This would leave a small square 'hole' at the nadir but with my Nikon DSLR/Sigma 8mm/NN5 combo this is smaller than the rotator of the pano head when using 4-around with an upwards pitch of 5 degrees. It would be a little larger with a Canon DSLR due to the difference in crop factor (1.6 vs. 1.5 for the Nikon) and would require a little more upwards pitch. IIRC Hans Nyberg says 6 degrees upwards pitch is sufficient for adequate zenith coverage on a Canon cropped sensor DSLR with the Sigma 8mm.

It has been demonstrated, by Hans Nyberg, that this rolled shooting technique reduces image quality at the seams in the central/middle area of the pano - see his post in this panoguide.com thread:
http://www.panoguide.com/users/1299/messages/?page=7

The only possible benefit is when one uses a suitable head, camera and lens combination (such as the Agno's MrotatorC for Nikon DX with Sigma 8mm FE) that allows 360x180 coverage in just 3 shots thereby reducing ghosting issues in scenes with a lot of movement, but then the overlaps are very small and this makes stitching more difficult.

Taking 6 rolled shots rather than 4 pitched shots is not worthwhile IMO.

What pano head is he using now? I note that the 6 shots were not taken with even horizontal spacing for some reason.

If he is shooting 15 panos a day then he might wish to consider the 360Precision Atome head which would make his life easier - this is a ring type head with built-in upwards pitch (which other single row ring-type pano heads do not have AFAIK) with a mechanism that allows very easy attachment/removal of the camera/lens from the body of the pano head:
http://www.360precision.com/360/index.c … ainnavID=2

(Be aware that apparently there are different models of the Atome for Nikon and Canon versions of the Sigma 8mm f3.5, I believe this is because the Canon mount lens has an auto-manual focus switch which the Nikon mount version does not).

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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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