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#1 2012-09-27 11:19:10

Christian Stüben
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my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hi all,
my first sphere (yes, it is only almost a sphere, zenit and nadir are missing) is yet finished, as far as it can be finished...

http://www.wackel3d.de/gigapanos/mariah … fberg.html

Due to my improvised equipment (no nodal mounting used) there are some stitching errors that cannot be solved, but most of them are resolved. Please look over the few remaining generously.

There is something i would like to know ... does the map and radar work correctly?

greetings from germany
Chris


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#2 2012-09-27 11:38:25

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hi Chris.. Its not quite a sphere but I still love it.. wink..... Considering your improvised gear.. well done.. !!

Destiny...
PS.. the Map works fine... wink

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#3 2012-09-27 11:41:12

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hi Chris,

"yes" it does work correctly.
on full speherical panos you can see the FOV displayed in the radar
on non full spherical panos you only have a "stick" displayed.

dont know if this can be solved in future versions. up to ptp 1.8 its "normal" behaviour.
so finally when not using 360x180 panos I would not use the radar...

the displayed map is unsharp. its google... so to avoid this I just would zoom one step further, there the google map is sharp again.

Georg

EDIT: correct - than bing is unsharp wink

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#4 2012-09-27 11:54:44

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Christian Stüben wrote:

Hi all,
my first sphere (yes, it is only almost a sphere, zenit and nadir are missing) is yet finished, as far as it can be finished...

http://www.wackel3d.de/gigapanos/mariah … fberg.html

Due to my improvised equipment (no nodal mounting used) there are some stitching errors that cannot be solved, but most of them are resolved. Please look over the few remaining generously.

There is something i would like to know ... does the map and radar work correctly?

greetings from germany
Chris

Hii Chris!

1) I suggest to limit the zoom-angle for the landscape pano - it´s quite unsharp at 100%.

2) For the church you used a wrong projection - it´s heavily distorted. Here i suggest to set a full spherical setting in APG-editor and leave Zenith and Nadir empty.
So you can render a full sphere without "real" Zenith and Nadir for having a correctly un-distorted spherical projection.

In PTP you can use the crop-tool then for limiting the vertical angle - but you also can do that in the xml of the pano.

This way your pano will not be distorted so heavily.

best, Klaus

Last edited by klausesser (2012-09-27 14:31:05)


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#5 2012-09-27 14:54:52

Christian Stüben
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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hi Klaus, Gerhard, and Destiny,
thank you for your comments and hints. Giving the fact, that it is my first, spontaneously and improvised made (semi-) sphere, it is a great job. Next one will be better (i hope).

@Klaus: yes, the pano is distorted. Maybe i am wrong, but i would explain it just contrary to you. Looking at the area near the zenith, pixels are stretched in width. So i would say, they should come even closer to the zenith for not beeing stretched. And when coming closer to the zenit, the remaining of the pano will slide up and (hopefully) be a little less distorted.

@Gerhard: it is bing maps, not google. Unfortunately google doesn´t provide any more keys for the flash api. And openstreetmap doesnt give me the choice to select map or air view.

greetings from germany
Chris


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#6 2012-09-27 15:35:57

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Christian Stüben wrote:

@Klaus: yes, the pano is distorted. Maybe i am wrong, but i would explain it just contrary to you. Looking at the area near the zenith, pixels are stretched in width. So i would say, they should come even closer to the zenith for not beeing stretched. And when coming closer to the zenit, the remaining of the pano will slide up and (hopefully) be a little less distorted.

It´s just a question of handling the shots in the stitcher. Making a sphere it has to be a WHOLE sphere - even when there´s no pictures for a whole sphere. So the space for Zenith and Nadir stay empty and you have black areas in your your equirectangular image.
Importing the equi into PTP you can use the crop-tool in PTP - it does nothing but limit the vertical FOV.

And then you will see that your pano isn´t distorted any more the way it is now. Actually you don´t seem to have the equi exactly 2:1.

best, Klaus


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#7 2012-10-03 15:17:40

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hola klausesser:


Yo como aporte, te diría que efectivamente limitaría el Zoom, un poco más. Por otro lado al no tener la imagen del Nadir, se puede cerrar como hacen muchos, poniendo el Logotipo de la empresa o algún detalle que lo cierre.


Además en las propiedades del panorama, en la pestaña proyección te permite variar los ángulos  tanto en horizontal como en vertical, con lo que si no lo tienes cerrado por faltar el Nadir, puedes cerrarlo dandole 180º al angulo vertical, con lo que el programa, cerrará el agujero que se formaba.

De esta forma tendras una esfera.

Espero que te sirva.


Un saludo

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#8 2012-10-03 15:25:48

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

I´am Sorri, klausesser y Cristiano Stuben. Me equivoqué de usuario. lo siento.


Un saludo

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#9 2012-10-04 08:11:01

Christian Stüben
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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

andres360 wrote:

I´am Sorri, klausesser y Cristiano Stuben. Me equivoqué de usuario. lo siento.


Un saludo

de nada
la mitad de las personas que publican aquí quieren aprender también, yo incluido

Saludos, Christian
quiero disculparme por mi mal español, el pez babel no se puede hacer mejor

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#10 2012-10-09 14:42:25

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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hola Cristiano:
En primer lugar, Gracias:
En panotour, en el panel propiedades del proyecto, en la pestaña Extra, la primera opción es Mapa. Se selecciona el Archivo a utilizar como Mapa, se activan las características, y en estos momentos esta preparado el panel, para darle las características que deseamos que realice el mapa, esto es su comportamiento, en este panel se le dice que muestre o no, el  radio del radar y darle o no, animación del punto activo.


Al seleccionar el archivo a utilizar como Mapa, este se mostrará en área en donde se cargan las imágenes. Al seleccionar el Mapa en el área gráfica. éste se abre en el Editor de puntos clave.
Es en este panel en donde se ubican los puntos clave, que se van a mostrar en el Mapa.

Por defecto el punto radar hace que se cargue e inicie en el punto medio del panorama, para que se inicie desde el punto exacto, hay que pulsar sobre el icono con forma de brújula, al hacerlo el radar se muestra con un color verde, es en esos momentos en los que está preparado para indicar en donde debe empezar, realmente es fácil de utilizar, yo suelo probar las diferentes funcionalidades, hasta quedarme con la que más me interesa.

Si no te aclaras puedes hacerlo de otra forma, con Autopano puedes realizar la panorámica cambiando el centro del panorama, de esta manera se iniciará en donde pongas el centro.

Espero que sirva de ayuda.

Siento lo de mi Ingles, espero que la traducción sea correcta. Incluiría imagenes, pero nosé como hacerlo. I'm Sorry

Un saludo

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#11 2012-10-09 14:44:32

andres360
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Re: my first (almost-) sphere: Sanctuary Mariahilfberg near Neumarkt

Hallo Christian:
Zunächst Dank:
In panotour in der Projekt-Eigenschaften-Panel , Extra Registerkarte ist die erste Option Karte. Sie wählen die Datei, die als Karte zu verwenden, Features aktiviert sind, und nun das Panel bereit ist, um die gewünschten Funktionen, die Karte zu geben, ist dies ihr Verhalten in diesem Panel wird erzählt, um zu zeigen, oder nicht, der Radius des Radars und geben Sie es oder nicht, Animation Hotspot.

Wenn Sie die Datei als Karte verwendet werden, wird dies in dem Bereich, wo die Bilder geladen werden angezeigt. Die Auswahl der Karte im Grafikbereich . es öffnet sich in den Editor wichtige Punkte .
's auf diesem Podium, wo die wichtigsten Punkte befinden, die auf der Karte angezeigt werden.

Standardmäßig Radar Punkt funktioniert das Laden und starten in der Mitte des Bildes, von dem exakten Punkt zu starten, müssen Sie auf das Symbol geformten Kompass klicken müssen, Radar tut zeigt mit grüner Farbe, ist in jenen Momenten, wenn er bereit ist, anzugeben, wo ich anfangen soll, wirklich einfach zu bedienen ist, dass ich in der Regel versuchen verschiedene Funktionalitäten, mit dem ein Ich will bleiben.

Wenn Sie sich fragen, was Sie anders machen, mit Autopano Sie schwenken Verschiebung der Mitte des Bildes sind, so dass Sie beginnen, wo Sie den Mittelpunkt zu stellen. Hoffentlich hilft.


Tut mir leid, mein Englisch, ich hoffe, die Übersetzung korrekt ist. Fügen Sie Bilder, aber die Nase how. Es tut mir leid

Gruß

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