Hello caretaker,
i have the same problem. And i have asked here in the forum too, several weeks ago. No usefull answer until today. There really seems to be no solution for us. Bad luck.

Hi kolor guys, what about a feature request "neutralhazer batch processible in Photoshop"?

greetings from germany
Chris

Sorry for the late answer. Let me try to explain why batch processing is not enabled in Neutralhazer.

As you may know, when Neutralhazer filter is launched, it starts by scanning the input image to create the haze map. It's the preliminary step that happens before preview is displayed. User settings allow planes positioning and corrections based on this map, and you should understand "in a relative way". What I mean is identical settings on two different images won't produce the same result. That's why batch processing cannot be enabled, as values cannot be "ported" from one image to another one.

You're right and... you're wrong.

When using neutralhazer from within autopano, then only one picture is analyzed and previewed from the operator. And this setting is used in batch for all the pictures for this pano.

Right ! But, this does not mean the same result is obtained for all the images, as the setting is only a percentage applied to the map computed for each image. That's what I was trying to highlight in my last comment, and I beg your pardon if I wasn't clear enough. I definitely understand this is not very intuitive as it's not the way usual image processing plug-ins are working.

Simply telling "cannot be enabled" is false.

Sorry Chris, but you're wrong there. It cannot be enabled because we chose to prevent it in order to avoid user disappointance when applying the same "apparent" settings to a bunch of images, and getting filtered images that do not receive the same haze removal amount. This is a design decision of Neutralhazer for Photoshop.

Please tell me if this is a bit more clear rephrased this way.

ygilquin wrote:

Right ! But, this does not mean the same result is obtained for all the images, as the setting is only a percentage applied to the map computed for each image.

Hmm, what i read is ... from within autopano, neutralhazer analyses each picture individualy, and decides to make different settings for each picture, and only a coarse adjustment from the setting the user choose from the one picture he himself decided to be representative?

There must be
... settings that say what is foreground, what is background, and how much they have to be cleared from haze. These settings should be the same for all pictures in one batch.
... a unique haze map for each picture, that (in combination with the settings) tells your algorythm how much each pixel must be cleared.

Hmm, the content of each pic is different, one contains more foreground, the other more background, so the haze map / foreground-background map will differ (in this point i agree). But all pictures should be filtered with the same "clearing settings". Otherwise the result will get too different.

Or is the way your dehazer works too different from other filters?

greetings from germany
Chris

klausesser wrote:

Regarding haze usually becomes evident on somewhat longer distance - most likely the haze is more or less uniform for most pictures. For that reason i guess it´s sufficient to find an ideal setting for one image which the represents all images for being treated.
best, Klaus

Yes, that´s the point i try to talk about. One setting for all batch pictures, but kolor doesn´t like it ... deep sigh

greetings
Chris

Last edited by Christian Stüben (2012-10-10 09:26:14)

klausesser wrote:

One or two times i used NH in APG a year or so ago it worked fine that way

Yes i tried this too, you can see the result in my Mariahilfberg pano (the view to Neumarkt). It works fine. But from within Photoshop the filter gives much more choices for fine tuning (oops, right words?).

greetings
Chris

Last edited by Christian Stüben (2012-10-10 16:48:05)