You are not logged in.



#1 2011-09-28 05:40:09

JeffCremer
Member
From: Lima, Peru
Registered: 2011-08-27
Posts: 16
Website

23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

Hello,

I was hoping that you all could give me some advice.  I am currently stitching a 23 gigapixel panorama with APG and am outputting the file to a .PSB format.   The problem is that APG creates a layered .PSB output.  I need to open the file with Photoshop to flatten it.  I read that Photoshop is internally limited to a size of 300,000 by 300,000 pixels.  How can I open the file to flatten it?  Is there a way to divide the image into parts then edit it?

Best regards,

Offline

 

#2 2011-09-28 07:14:08

mediavets
Moderator
From: Isleham, Cambridgeshire, UK.
Registered: 2007-11-14
Posts: 8081
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

This may be of interest?:
http://www.kolor.com/forum/t11415-utili … -available

http://www.bigmike.it/kroutils/

Last edited by mediavets (2011-09-28 07:15:13)


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

Offline

 

#3 2011-09-28 10:12:43

gkaefer
Member
From: Salzburg
Registered: 2009-06-09
Posts: 1694
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

one way which could work...
export your pano with autopanos .kro fileformat. this can be sliced by kroutils. the slices can be saved as .psd (! no psb support....) or as raw format.
... now the but.... my experience is the difficulties starting when later you try to merge the slices again... psd does not work (my testwise 8gb file failed... pse and other programms claimed invalid format...) and the raw format cant be opened by pse9 (dont know if ps CS5 is smarter...) rawtherapie and photoline also fail....

so I ended up in photoline (64bit version) puzzling the slized back to one pano and to save it as psb (with or without layers...)
(you can postprocess the slices, but youve careful note down the made changes to apply the same values to all slices....)

Liebe Gruesse,
Georg

Offline

 

#4 2011-09-28 16:30:56

JeffCremer
Member
From: Lima, Peru
Registered: 2011-08-27
Posts: 16
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

Hello,

Thank you for your help and thank you for the links.  Ive been learning a lot.  I am going to try to open the .psb file in photoshop.  If i hit the size limit I will render it again using the .kro format then use the kroutils program to divide it up for editing.  Ill post a link to the finished image once its done uploading.

Offline

 

#5 2011-11-26 05:47:40

Ronald
Member
Registered: 2009-01-18
Posts: 165

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

mediavets wrote:

psd does not work (my testwise 8gb file failed... pse and other programms claimed invalid format...) and the raw format cant be opened by pse9 (dont know if ps CS5 is smarter...) rawtherapie and photoline also fail....

Renaming the PSD file to PSB should eliminate the problem that you're experiencing with big files; that's my rule number one, regardless of the file size generated by APP (which determines the type of extension), I always change the extension to avoid future issues during the pano editing in PS.

Offline

 

#6 2011-11-27 19:21:33

wjh31
Member
From: Surrey, UK
Registered: 2009-04-10
Posts: 458
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

How far over are you? if it's only a couple of percent then the temporary solution would be to render at 300kpx on the long edge and the down scaling will sharpen the image a touch

Offline

 

#7 2012-02-03 11:29:16

gkaefer
Member
From: Salzburg
Registered: 2009-06-09
Posts: 1694
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

Ronald wrote:

mediavets wrote:

psd does not work (my testwise 8gb file failed... pse and other programms claimed invalid format...) and the raw format cant be opened by pse9 (dont know if ps CS5 is smarter...) rawtherapie and photoline also fail....

Renaming the PSD file to PSB should eliminate the problem that you're experiencing with big files; that's my rule number one, regardless of the file size generated by APP (which determines the type of extension), I always change the extension to avoid future issues during the pano editing in PS.

;-( adobe photoshop elements 9 and also meanwhile the pse 10 cant open .psb files at all, even less than 500kb files... unknown filetype... photoline can open the small files... and so I assume big brohther of pse as you suggested can it too. But my problem was that the psd and raw files from kroutils (after mergeing the psd or raw slices) cant be reopened with pse9, photoline,rawtherapie etc. so I assume something went wrong because of filesize of 8gb... smaller files 2-3 gig are working smoothly... so I assume the filesize with the resources of my pc (8gb ram...)...
Georg

Offline

 

#8 2012-02-03 13:29:53

AlexandreJ
Absolute beginner
From: Challes les eaux, France
Registered: 2005-11-14
Posts: 7632
Website

Re: 23 Gigapixel Pano Problem - Photoshop Size Limitation

We don't create PSB file over 300,000, that's prohibited by autopano. If you are over this value, you are forced to use KRO format.
So as you were able to create the PSB format, you are under 300,000 pixels and you should be able to open it in photoshop ( assuming a giant computer ).

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB
© Copyright 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson