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Hi to all,
I am thinking of updating my old desktop to a new ASUS N53SV N53SV-SX068V Notebook Intel Core i7 2630QM with Win 7 Home Premium. 60 gb SSD drive + 650 GB external USB HDD. I would also run a 21'' external monitor.
My focus is not on Gigapixel pano's but smaller mosaics with about 120 x 50 FOV (About 1 GB) and generally in Black and white, but also some colour.
I've read the requirements in the wiki and believe that the system I've proposed would be satisfactory.
My questions are - As my current C: drive is 160 GB, but full of lots of infrequently used software. Could I remove the unused software to a 650 USB Drive, and use a 60 gb SSD drive for systems software (PS + APG + 2 or 3 other frequently used apps) Also with 8GM ram will I have enough to process my pano's in memory using the extra space in the SSD drive for the temp directiry.
Also as the 650Gb drive is USB will it be suitable as the temp drive for any pano I create.
Sorry to ask a question that has been asked before but I get confused with all the new terminology.
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Hi wjh31, Why a laptop - Just so I can be on the road and still have use of some of the software i have.
There is an alternative model that has 2 500gb hard drives. or maybe 120gb of SSD and 1 500gb hard drive, but it was getting outside my price range.
If I kept the laptop for APG and Photoshop ONLY would 120 ssd drive be ok for APG and PS + DPP and enough left for temp drive with my small panos
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irpano,
yes, will be able to do pano's and other computing tasks. depending on how many programs you will install it could be a little tight in the space department, an external drive to off-load things isn't a bad idea (USB3), but working off the external harddrive will obviously slow things down.
One thing that I am a bit more worried about is the short battery life it has (up to 2 hours), and thats best case scenario.
its always a compromise :-) but then on the otherside, I am looking at a little netbook with less resources, but I am accepting that it will be slow at things but very portable and light for when on the road. I find that my larger laptop is just too big and clumsy and battery dies within an hour or two, but then I can then go home and add the files to my workstation.
hope this help
Henrik
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Thanks for the reply Henrik. I certainly am not in your class as far as computing requirements are concerned and hve only modest needs for pano work.
I have tried the ASUS eee pc and papywizard but found that the screen is hopeless in daylight and finally went to a T&C controller. Best thing I have do so far. I carry a 12volt 7amp battery to power the head and controller and I can go for weeks between charges. Another good move thanks to Mediavets. The notebook will serve as my main computer at home where I have a Terabyte drive attached to my network for final storage. My present system is OLd and I need to update and with the workflow i have tried I ned it to be quicker than at present. The Asus notebook has options for video drivers and HDD that I THINK will work for me - 640Gb HDD partitioned as C and D and 8 MB ram + GT540M 1 Gb graphics card. My concern is Does the temp drive in APG have to be a PHYSICAL drive and is the Video card good enough for better editing. Ive posted a PM about another matter.
Regards
John
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Hi John,
You are welcome and I hope this is helpful.
There is nothing stopping you from using a laptop to do your pano's and other computing needs. Its all about the compromises we make, often dictated my constrains of some sort, in my own case its cash and knowledge :-)
Ideally the temp/scratch disk should be physically separated from the boot disk, as it will fight for the "right of way" with your page-file. However we can't always get what we want, but if you choose to add a SSD disk to the system as you main drive, it will greatly benefit the overall speed of your system. However, here the compromise is space vs speed.. vs cost, if you have plenty of the later you can have both of the first two ;-)
on a note on my own needs, was to get a netbook, so I could run other software packages to do focus stacking, use it with Canon LiveView etc..., and obviously with Papy. I have no doubt, that the T&C controller is the better way to go Papywizard, I think the two could probably be nice compliments to each other.
also i have emailed u back
Henrik
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Hi AsiaAleandri,
if that is within your budget and you want an Apple, well then its very plain and simple - go buy it! ;-)
Henrik
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Hi irpano,
if you prefer a laptop/notebook over an desktop I absolutley would insist on an outdoor daylight capable screen. otherwhise a notebook looses 100% of its flexibility.
as example usage on location: moving images from cam to notebook.
thetering the notebook with the cam for liveviewing/focusing
as one of many examples: the dell x3 latitude where the daylight viewable touchscreen costs 120€ additional:
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstor … titude-xt3
(I would take 8gig RAM and I would choose the 64bit and if money is less problem I would take the SSDs instead of harddisks....)
Georg
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Hello All,
I just joined this forum and this is my first post. I apologize for hijacking this thread, but my proposed setup is similar to the OP's so I though better ask here instead of creating another thread.
I am using Dell Studio 15, Core2 Duo, 3gb ram, 32bit Vista. I have successfully made stitches* of 10-15 files of 10MP DSLR with this system, but it took a lot of time (and I didn't do much layering). I will be joining a PhD program in the US and would like to buy a computer optimized for high resolution image editing. I apologize in advance because I do not intend to create huge gigapixel panos. My interest lies in stitches of say 5-10 images made using tilt shift lenses with a high resolution 35mm DSLR. I would love to build a desktop, but as I would be coming back to India after PhD, I am hesitant in investing in a desktop and have more or less decided on buying a laptop w/ external IPS screen.
I see myself having two options:
Option 1. Get a sturdy ultra-mobile (13"/ 14") laptop with dual core i5, upto 8GB ram, 7200 rpm HDD (later SSD) and caddie SSD. Contenders: Dell Vostro 3350, Toshiba R830, Lenovo X220, Apple Macbook Pro 13"
Option 2. Get a sturdy 15" quad core i7, upto 16GB ram (4 dimms), 7200 rpm HDD (later SSD), caddie SSD. Contenders: Lenovo W520, Asus N53SV, Dell M4600
I am not aware of study culture in the US but I am assuming that I will have to carry the laptop around the campus. So, I would prefer Option 1 (also contributes the fact that it is cheaper than Option 2)
My Question: Will Option 1 suffice as far as my photo editing requirements are concerned? I am asking because I am yet to buy the camera system (I plan to do so in Dec) but I have to buy the laptop now itself because the school will start in next two weeks. So I have no idea how big my files will be and how much ram it need. I know I will be working on one file at a time but for viewing I might open 2-3 files for comparison. In short, my question is: Will i5, 8GB ram be sufficient for stitching and editing (with moderate layering) upto 10 files of 24-30MP each , provided I use a separate HDD (7.2k rpm) or an SSD as a scratch disk dedicated for photo editing apps like Lightroom, Photoshop CS5 (or its successor) and stitching, HDR s/ws?
My 2nd question is: Can I create a logical partition in the SSD/ HDD reserved for the CS5 scratch disk to store a few important data files? I will obviously store most of my data on an external slow HDD, but would like to keep a few everyday-used files in the laptop itself.
My 3rd question: Keeping my needs in mind, how critical is it to have USB 3.0?
4th Question: Will getting dual core i7 (instead of i5) make any significant changes in the layering and other cpu intensive tasks?
Once I complete this setup, I hope to use it for my entire PhD duration, and may be beyond. Once I am set with a image capturing and image editing workflow, I would be hesitant to make changes to it. I don't change things unless I need to, and happily use my Pentium II, 256mb ram, 20gb HDD with puppy linux for browsing and music.
Thank you for your patience!
hrishi
* Example of the stitches I have made and plan to make: 
Last edited by hrishi (2011-08-25 12:20:06)
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irpano wrote:
Hi wjh31, Why a laptop - Just so I can be on the road and still have use of some of the software i have.
There is an alternative model that has 2 500gb hard drives. or maybe 120gb of SSD and 1 500gb hard drive, but it was getting outside my price range.
If I kept the laptop for APG and Photoshop ONLY would 120 ssd drive be ok for APG and PS + DPP and enough left for temp drive with my small panos
Hi ,
When it comes to detection, the left-> right part of autopano, it is amazing what you can do on small hardware. I have done amazing things on a netbook. When it cames to the rendering, you might need a rather strong machine
When on the road i often do the detection on my netbook, but try to download the groups and the photos to my homemachine for renderng.
How many pictures of what megapixel size do you think to make. From that I can calculate you and advice as described in http://www.kolor.com/forum/p87033-2011- … -58#p87033
Last edited by HansKeesom (2011-08-25 12:21:54)
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hrishi wrote:
My interest lies in stitches of say 5-10 images made using tilt shift lenses with a high resolution 35mm DSLR.
Does APG handle tilt-shift lens images?
Last edited by mediavets (2011-08-25 13:11:04)
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mediavets wrote:
Does APG hnadle tilt-shift lens images?
hi, I had found this before I posted: http://www.kolor.com/forum/p78477-2011-03-01-11-59-51
I might add that in certain cases, I would use a 50mm lens too ![]()
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