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As noted, the crash is instantaneous -- start render and the program immediately aborts on this pano, every time. It is large however there is 17gb of temp space and it is "only a gigapixel" 97025 by 10585 from 212 images. Of course on linux I am not using a fat32 fileystem. And the fault happens im...
by bradtem
Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:37 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 301Beta amd64 Linux -- core dump on render attempt of large pano
Replies: 22
Views: 4675

Hmm. So what am I doing wrong? For my test, I took the first image (only) and added a variety of caption and title tags such as these: Image Description : Monument at Place de la Bastille, where a remnant of the prison sits User Comment : Monument at Place de la Bastille, where a remnant of the pris...
by bradtem
Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:30 pm
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Propagate or allow edit of Exif caption, title, tag information
Replies: 4
Views: 2313

Oh, in the early days the first viewers, like the quicktime vr player, were independent programs or possibly worked via java applet or dedicated plug-in. Even today, the players are usually flash based though some html 5 based viewers are now available, entirely browser based.
by bradtem
Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:51 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Yes, that's what I mean by "and its ilk" -- the browser based zoom viewers. I have many photos on gigapan, hardly unaware of it.
by bradtem
Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:46 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Propagate or allow edit of Exif caption, title, tag information

Right now APP writes a fairly boring caption into the panos it creates, Something of the form "Kolor stitching | 4 pictures | Size: 7029 x 5874 | Lens: Standard | RMS: 3.20 | FOV: 73.31 x 63.72 ~ -1.32 | Projection: Planar | Color: None |" which is useful for diagnostics, but not what most people wo...
by bradtem
Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:57 pm
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Propagate or allow edit of Exif caption, title, tag information
Replies: 4
Views: 2313

I uploaded the pano and crash file to the FTP server. The images are too much to upload unless crucial. It is kubuntu precise amd64. Since the most reliable crash is on doing a render, I am not as inclined to think it's a graphics card problem, though the preview crash might have been. It's a Radeon...
by bradtem
Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:45 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 301Beta amd64 Linux -- core dump on render attempt of large pano
Replies: 22
Views: 4675

Bill, indeed the topic is really "what do you do with your giant pano once you make it." And today I'm finding that by far, the most common purpose is display in a zoom viewer like krpano, though I still print reasonably often on an ordinary large format, and occasionally sell to somebody who wants ...
by bradtem
Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:17 pm
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

Ah, I must admit I have not had the opportunity to print a 8x10 transparency at full resolution for projection. I agree that is an interesting application. But alas, I must continue to disagree about DPI and PPI. PPI is again what you are always interested in. Inkjet printers render images by sprayi...
by bradtem
Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:42 pm
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

We're still at cross purposes. DPI is an almost irrelevant number these days. It only matters to the people who design how printers will do their dot patterns -- it should not generally be used by people doing colour prints, which are today all generated from pixel based digital images and PPI is th...
by bradtem
Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:32 am
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

I disagree. Today's printers all work from pixels and do their own internal job of mapping that to dots. Their resolutions in dots range from 600 to 2400 dots per inch but the goal is to render ppi. And my point is, if you generate a panorama for printing, you do not gain anything havng that panoram...
by bradtem
Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:04 pm
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

You may not be understanding what I am talking about. The panos I am describing have shots with different resolutions. APP renders such at the resolution of the highest res (longest lens) shot. If you ahve a pano made of say 50mm shots that is 1 gigapixel, for example, and you insert a 200mm shot or...
by bradtem
Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:05 am
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

APG 301Beta amd64 Linux -- core dump on render attempt of large pano

I have a large pano of paris, 229 Canon 5d2 images, 100mm lens. Any attempt to render dumps core immediately, highly repeatable. Crash file and pano attached. The iamges would be too large to upload. It first dumped core when trying to do a preview. The preview started taking up all CPU, and there i...
by bradtem
Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:46 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 301Beta amd64 Linux -- core dump on render attempt of large pano
Replies: 22
Views: 4675

I was looking at some other projections for which the numbers differ a lot. Let me explore more. I care mostly about sphere, cyclinder and now I like pannini though I suspect that may be best viewed as a flat image (something krpano still is not perfect at.)
by bradtem
Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:40 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Hi, The reason for this change is that theta/phi do not have mean for some of the new projections. In your case, I suppose your are considering sperical projection, and then formulas are quite simple: Theta_min = (2 * xmin - 1) * Pi Theta_max =(2*xmax - 1) * Pi Phi_min = Pi/2 - Pi * ymax Phi_max = ...
by bradtem
Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:45 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Krpano doesn't seem to have much docs on working with APP/APG. As noted I am not interestd so much in theta and phi, though I had worked out formulae for those numbers because they were used in the old .pano format. What I really want are the hfov, vfov and yoffset that krpano uses (and which, to an...
by bradtem
Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:39 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar

As we start building bigger and bigger panos, the question comes up about how to display them. Printing at more than 300 ppi is wasteful, so unless you are covering a wall you are not going to use the resolution of a 5-row in a printout on typical large format printers most of the time. And I'm noti...
by bradtem
Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:18 am
 
Forum: Autopano Future
Topic: Mutli-resolution panos designed only for display in krpano or similar
Replies: 14
Views: 5009

Just a bump on this -- with the switch to APG 3, I can no longer convert my panos to krpanos for display without a formula to generate the hfov, vfov and voffset numbers -- is this the wrong place to ask for that formula? APG still displays the numbers in the pano editor so the formula obviously exi...
by bradtem
Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:05 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

Well, I had something like this today. A 2-row pano shot with a 50mm lens on a clickstop pano mount -- so nice intervals for all. But it insisted the focal length was 24mm and double overlapped. This was probably due to the presence of sky shots where there were light cloud patterns which allowed bl...
by bradtem
Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:09 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: [APG 3 A2 Linux] Error in preview window
Replies: 7
Views: 2081

All very well and good, but they seem to have replaced the theta and phi values and I need those for the krpano, so if the formula is available, let me know. I have noticed that for a 360 degree pano the Xn value is 0 to 1, but for other panos it is not simply the FOV where 1 is 360.
by bradtem
Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:06 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?

I have scripts that convert .pano files to the parameters for the bpan.xml file for krpano. The scripts use the thetamin and phimin/max parameters from the old .pano files which were expressed in radians to generate the parameters for krpano's fov and offset. These don't work now that these fields h...
by bradtem
Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:47 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3 -- What are XnMin/YnMin/Max?
Replies: 15
Views: 3904

APG 3.01B Linux AMD64 crashes, all work lost

I've filed this bug before but am surprised to see it still in version 3. While APP/APG 3.0 have been quite stable, I got my first core dump today. There were no diagnostics, alas. I was editing a 3row 24 column 360 pano with 2 extra images inserted, and during layer editing to remove some redundant...
by bradtem
Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:33 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APG 3.01B Linux AMD64 crashes, all work lost
Replies: 0
Views: 514

Curious. I believe there is supposed to be a setting for the widget as to whether opening single files is the expected behaviour or if opening multiple files is expected. But I haven't coded for KDE so I have not checked into this -- perhaps there are some other file open widgets that can be used th...
by bradtem
Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:40 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APP [3.0B1 Linux 64bit] Various wrong actions on single click & more
Replies: 6
Views: 1721

Not sure what you mean about being unable to set different priorities. APP 2 had a setting in it in the batch rendering window to control the priority of the rendering threads, but that function is missing in APP 3. This has become a real killer, the system eats so much CPU that the mouse slows down...
by bradtem
Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:04 pm
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APP [3.0B1 Linux 64bit] Various wrong actions on single click & more
Replies: 6
Views: 1721

APP [3.0B1 Linux 64bit] Various wrong actions on single click & more

System: Kubuntu 12.04 LTS, 16gb ram, SSD for root and APP spool, Intel I5 quad core Lots of errors with single clicks doing what they should not: a) In selecting a series of images to import, a single click on a file selects only it and gives an error (no pano with one image.) One must ctrl-click an...
by bradtem
Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:48 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: APP [3.0B1 Linux 64bit] Various wrong actions on single click & more
Replies: 6
Views: 1721

Ok, I think I found the source of the problem. An earlier upgrade had changed the scratch directory and it was set to a parent directory that was not writable. The smaller panos were building without scratch disk due to my 16gb of memory it seems, but the larger panos needing more space were going t...
by bradtem
Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:55 am
 
Forum: Autopano - Bugs & discussion
Topic: [APP 2.5 linux 64bit] maxflow assertion failed
Replies: 10
Views: 2487
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