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#1 2012-02-11 01:49:55

Didi
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problem wirh 8-15mm canon

usually, i shoot with a sigma, 8mm, all is perfect.
Today, i bought the 8-15 canon and ,no problem with the 8 and the 15mm.So what ?
When i am in the middle, autopano giga recognizes the 12mm but the panoramia is  " horrible"", 2 pictures are no contact or not with the good one
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7545/pasdenom.jpg

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#2 2012-02-11 02:17:30

gkaefer
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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

the 8mm will/should be detected as fisheye
the 15mm will/should be detected as standard
... if the lens is not found in lens database or if exif data is lost (due to eventual editing by external program)...

can you check what autopano detects? fisheye or standard for the 8mm and the 15mm
and finally you can adopt the detected values by manually editing in autopano group->image properties...

Georg

CORRECZTION see below postings....

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#3 2012-02-11 14:51:15

Didi
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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

hello, for both ,8-15 it detects fisheye and it works very well. But , when i use 12-13-14mm, it detects fisheye.I unchecked fisheye and the result is nearly same. I could send you the pictures by email, if you want, after all it,s a new  lens  ?

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#4 2012-02-11 15:33:39

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Didi wrote:

hello, for both ,8-15 it detects fisheye and it works very well. But , when i use 12-13-14mm, it detects fisheye.I unchecked fisheye and the result is nearly same.

Why uncheck fisheye? - it's a fisheye lens at all focal lengths.

I could send you the pictures by email, if you want, after all it,s a new  lens  ?

Yes, send me an image set -  andrews[at]mediavets.co.uk


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
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#5 2012-02-11 15:53:47

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

ok correct.
and have found alexandres posting:
http://www.kolor.com/forum/p94385-2012- … -10#p94385
so <15mm = fisheye and >16mm standard if no exif or lensid do define it different.

Georg

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#6 2012-02-11 16:14:16

Didi
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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Why uncheck fisheye? - it's a fisheye lens at all focal lengths.

I know, i'm just trying solutions i am sending you  pictures, thank's

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#7 2012-02-11 18:08:07

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Didi wrote:

Why uncheck fisheye? - it's a fisheye lens at all focal lengths.

I know, i'm just trying solutions i am sending you  pictures, thank's

There is no way I can stitch images like those you sent me - for others intested in this issue here's a reduced size example.

You seem to have created a large grey border aorund the image which is itself set at an angle.

Can you send me just a reduced size set of JPEGS without the border please?


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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#8 2012-02-11 18:33:32

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Well I straightened and cropped the border off your images.

They will stitch but there's little if any overlap between image 1 and image 5.

It seems you didn't use a consistent yaw separation on the 5-around.

Did you use a proper pano head with click stops?


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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#9 2012-02-13 17:24:52

Didi
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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

oh yes i spent a long time for this. i'm  " perfect " for this.
"You seem to have created a large grey border aorund the image which is itself set at an angle" i didn't ,it's on the logiciel.
Today , it works, but , now, my problem is the pano in panotour.I am not allowed to export face cube and i don't have the zenith and the nadir.
For the fun , i tried  with another logiciel  PT...and i got the same pano BUT it works very well on panotour.
dificult to understand, i tried to send you by email,andrews, but google said there is  a problem with your name

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#10 2012-02-13 17:34:29

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Didi wrote:

dificult to understand, i tried to send you by email,andrews, but google said there is  a problem with your name

Hope you replaced the "at" with a "@" ? cool

best, Klaus

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#11 2012-02-13 17:45:34

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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

Didi wrote:

Today , it works, but , now, my problem is the pano in panotour.I am not allowed to export face cube and i don't have the zenith and the nadir.

Did you force a 360x180 pano FOV when stitching?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#12 2012-02-13 19:29:12

Didi
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Re: problem wirh 8-15mm canon

I did again and again and  i have the answer, or so a solution

If i use the 8mm i must tip over the lens of 10 degre and add the zenith.
When i use 10-12-14mm, 3-4 photos a 0 degre and no zenith (Nadir as usual ,but no need  absolutely)

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