Thank for the fast reply Frederic ;-)

fma38 wrote:

The Time Value, here, is the delay to ensure that your camera has finished its triggering sequence. So, if it takes 3 seconds to take the picture, enter a value >= 3. There is no feedback from the camera with the Merlin, so you must syncronize all values.

That ist what I did definitively not!!! So before shooting bracketed I have to calculate the maximum length for all shoots together . That is clear to me now.

fma38 wrote:

By setting the braketing value to 3, you ask Papywizard to trigger the shutter 3 times. It is up to you to set up your camera accordingly, using the bracketing feature.

The point is clear to me too; but there is one question that occurs to me then. If I look to the generated xml.file, which is in my understanding necessary for the correct import to APG, I can find the marking, that there a bracketed images.

Can APG import the pictures correctly, even it the xml file shows one file only, although there are 3 images (or more), instead of only one picture?

[btw: i do not know anything about xml then]


As I remarked yesterday the import of some 60 shots (bracketed) lasted an eternity (via import wizard), 4 rows x 5 columns (bracketed *3). Is that normal?


Thanks again and greeting to the forum
Georg

Last edited by geko5766 (2010-04-27 08:28:21)

mediavets wrote:

Georg

Is there only one way to setup AEB on your camera - where one press of the shutter takes all the bracketed images?

Yes, that is exactly ahy I love my k-7. One shot and your done ;-)

Greetings
Georg

PS: The K10D was a little different, But I don´t use it any longer regularely for Panos.

fma38 wrote:

Mmm, in this case, the import filter won't work (as it doesn't when you use an external script using a tethered shooting program)...

It seems we 'simply' need a way of differentiating, in the configuration settings, between the number of times the 'shutter trigger routine' is called and the number of entries written into the XML data file for bracketing where the two numbers are different?

It would be nice if the Papywizard Import filter then assigned bracketed images to stacks - does it now?

Last edited by mediavets (2010-04-27 12:30:25)

mediavets wrote:

It seems we 'simply' need a way of differentiating, in the configuration settings, between the number of times the 'shutter trigger routine' is called and the number of entries written into the XML data file for bracketing where the two numbers are different?

Yep!

It would be nice if the Papywizard Import filter then assigned bracketed images to stacks - does it now?

I don't know...

geko5766 wrote:

But how cann I now achieve my HDR Basis-photos. I do trigger once and the xml.file is always "wrong". Can I manuall overwrite it (i.e. I had to triple the entries and alter them manually)?
Any other idea??

Thanks again
Georg

This is 'ugly' but I think it would work, as a work-around, if you're desperate.

Shoot the pano with one shutter trigger per bracketed set at each shooting position (which is what your AEB system on the K7 requires) - without a data file - then change the settings for plug-ins to simulation and bracket settings to 3 shutter triggers per shooting position, set a minimal Time value, no stabilisatio delay - don't change the reference point or the number of rows and columns or the order/pattern of shooting - and repeat the pano, 'shooting' as fast as possible in simulation mode, with 3 triggers per position creating a data file.

Use the data file from the simulated shoot with the images from the real shoot when using the Papywizard Import filter. As far as I know the Papywizard Import filter only really 'cares' about whether the number of images defined in the data file matches the number of images you select from the wizard.

Last edited by mediavets (2010-04-27 13:28:25)

@Frederic

Hello once more.

Before I lay open my thought about a possible solution for this "mess", I have to say clearly, that I do not know how to code or write a program. But sometimes I have a moment of mental clarity and maybe this is one:

I am talking about thesame window, as mentioned in my first post of this thread.

Well my idea is:

You could add another counter/field.  one should be called : 1. AEB, i.e. you trigger once and an xml file with n(=choice) pictures is generated
                                                                                      2. MEB (manual expoure bracketing) : the trigger is used n-times and an xml file with n pictures is generated

  Default value is 1, which means no bracketing, xml with one photo only
  Now there should be a dependency between these fields: If value in AEB  <> 1 , Then ignore field MEB
                                                                                   If Value in MEB <> 1, then ignore AEB
                                                                                   If Value in AEB <> 1 AND Value in MEB <> 1 , then  either  Message: are you sure, you will have n times n pictures
                                                                                                                                                              or       both values are ignored

Maybe this is a proposal, that might be considered as a solution. Please give your comments, especially those who can guess how it can be transposed to Code ;-)


Best regards

Georg

mediavets wrote:

It would be nice if the Papywizard Import filter then assigned bracketed images to stacks - does it now?

This is a question anyhow - i didn´t try but: shooting breacketed using let´s say 3 exposures at each position does Papy´s xml for APP/APG
write 3 times the same position? Which would be correct of course.
Or does it write ONE postition - which would be  a problem shooting racketed.

And: what about generating HDR in Photomatix first and using the papy´s xml for APG then for positioning?

best, Klaus

Last edited by klausesser (2010-04-27 18:33:23)

klausesser wrote:

mediavets wrote:

It would be nice if the Papywizard Import filter then assigned bracketed images to stacks - does it now?

This is a question anyhow - i didn´t try but: shooting breacketed using let´s say 3 exposures at each position does Papy´s xml for APP/APG
write 3 times the same position? Which would be correct of course.
Or does it write ONE postition - which would be  a problem shooting racketed.

The latter is the issue we're seeking to address - the Pentax K7 requires only one triggering of the shutter to shot an entire AEB image set.

klausesser wrote:

mediavets wrote:

It would be nice if the Papywizard Import filter then assigned bracketed images to stacks - does it now?

This is a question anyhow - i didn´t try but: shooting breacketed using let´s say 3 exposures at each position does Papy´s xml for APP/APG
write 3 times the same position? Which would be correct of course.
Or does it write ONE postition - which would be  a problem shooting racketed.

And: what about generating HDR in Photomatix first and using the papy´s xml for APG then for positioning?

best, Klaus

Hello Klaus,

the way I do read the xml from Papy this is indeed one way to do it. Taking the xml (with one image only) and after doing the hdr in photomatix, importinbg them via wizard.

But I tried it already the other way around (manually) I made the pano first , with three output layers and putting them into Photomatix. It worked rather well, although the length of the calculation was immense ;-)  But it worked. And papy really creates one xml with three pictures in the same position, only differentiated by bracketing number.

So both way should work.

Georg