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Hi All
I really appreciate all the help I've been getting (especially Claude!) but my merlin still wont work properly. My main interest is shooting gigapixel images using a 200mm + lens at a reasonable speed.
I've recently upgraded the firmware to 02.06.81 which has helped with the speed. On the old firmware 02.04.81 it took 16min to shoot a 5 x 10 image @ 200mm. With the upgraded firmware it can take 7 min or 14 min - this isn't predictable. I think 7 min is an ok speed that I can work with (though of course faster would be better). 14 min is too slow, especially when I can sometimes do the same shoot in 7 min. More often then not it takes 14 min rather then 7 min.
I've got a couple of questions -
1) How fast are other users able to shoot a 5 x 10 @ 200mm? Is 7 min a good speed or can this be improved?
2) Is your merlin head stable / consistent when shooting with a long lens? My system works occasionally works fast but often works with a slow pitch, yaw or both.
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
4) Are my expectations too high for the merlin head? Papywizard is a great bit of software but maybe I need to look into different hardware are there stable hardware options?
I'd be really grateful for any guidance on this as I've invested a great deal of time trying to get it up and running but still haven't taken the merlin out on a shoot. I recently bought a Hasselblad H3DII 50MP with a 210 lens. My dream is to get the H3D and Merlin working in a consistent stable way (is this possible??!).
Thanks
Will
Here is the log file for when the pitch and yaw are working slowly.
2010-04-11 19:02:57,775::Main::INFO::Starting Papywizard...
2010-04-11 19:02:59,426::Main::INFO::Importing modules...
2010-04-11 19:03:02,906::Main::INFO::Loading i18n files...
2010-04-11 19:03:02,987::Main::DEBUG::Papywizard.i18n(): locale=en_GB
2010-04-11 19:03:03,002::Main::WARNING::Can't find qt translation file
2010-04-11 19:03:03,018::Main::INFO::Loading Style Sheets...
2010-04-11 19:03:03,117::Main::WARNING::No user Style Sheet found
2010-04-11 19:03:03,127::Main::INFO::Loading configuration...
2010-04-11 19:03:03,207::Main::DEBUG::ConfigManager.__init__(): versions: dist=['2', '1', '17'], user=[u'2', u'1', u'17']
2010-04-11 19:03:03,218::Main::DEBUG::ConfigManager.__init__(): user config. is up-to-date
2010-04-11 19:03:03,229::Main::INFO::Load plugins...
2010-04-11 19:03:03,351::Main::DEBUG::DslrRemoteProShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,362::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,376::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'USER_EXPOSURE_COMPENSATION_LIST': '-2, 0, +2', 'DRY_RUN': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'FILENAME_PREFIX': '', 'CAMERA_EXPOSURE_COMPENSATION_LIST': u'\xb12@1/2', 'OUTPUT_DIR': '/home/user', 'PROGRAM_PATH': 'C:\\Program Files\\BreezeSys\\DSLR Remote Pro\\DSLRRemoteTest\\DSLRRemoteTest.exe'}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,387::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'DSLR Remote Pro' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,418::Main::TRACE::EOSUtilityShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,438::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,455::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'FOCUS_DIRECTION': u'far', 'BRACKETING_TYPE': '0-+', 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'DRY_RUN': True, 'BULB_BASE_EXPOSURE': 1, 'FOCUS_NB_PICTS': 1, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'FOCUS_STEP_COUNT': 1, 'FOCUS_ENABLE': False, 'EOS_UTILITY_VERSION': u'new', 'PROGRAM_PATH': 'C:\\Program Files\\Papywizard\\EOSBracket.exe', 'BRACKETING_STEP': '1', 'FOCUS_STEP': u'medium'}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,467::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'EOS Utility' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,486::Main::TRACE::GenericTetheredShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,497::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,510::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP_COMMAND': 'gphoto2 --capture-image', 'SHOOT_COMMAND': 'gphoto2 --capture-image', 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,521::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Generic Tethered' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,581::Main::TRACE::GigaPanBotAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,593::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,604::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,618::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,629::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'GigaPanBot' plugin with capacity 'yawAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,641::Main::TRACE::GigaPanBotAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,653::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,664::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,677::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,688::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'GigaPanBot' plugin with capacity 'pitchAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,700::Main::TRACE::GigaPanBotShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,711::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,722::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,732::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,744::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,758::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,769::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'GigaPanBot' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,802::Main::TRACE::GphotoBracketShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,814::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,831::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'BRACKETING_EV_STEP': 1, 'BRACKETING_EV_LIST': '0', 'BRACKETING_PLUS_STEP': 1, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP_COMMAND': 'gphoto2 --capture-image', 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'DOWNLOAD_DIR': '/home/user', 'BRACKETING_MINUS_STEP': 1, 'DOWNLOAD_ENABLE': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'BRACKETING_MINUS_NB_PICTS': 0, 'BRACKETING_EV_BIAS': 0, 'BRACKETING_ADVANCED': False, 'BRACKETING_PLUS_NB_PICTS': 0, 'DOWNLOAD_THEN_DELETE': False, 'PROGRAM_PATH': 'gphoto2', 'DOWNLOAD_AFTER': u'Each shot'}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,842::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Gphoto Bracket' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,878::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,890::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,901::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,921::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'INERTIA_ANGLE': 0.69999999999999996, 'ALTERNATE_DRIVE': True, 'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,932::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,944::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,955::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:03,973::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'INERTIA_ANGLE': 0.69999999999999996, 'ALTERNATE_DRIVE': True, 'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:03,985::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Merlin-Orion' plugin with capacity 'yawAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:03,997::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,008::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,019::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,039::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'INERTIA_ANGLE': 0.69999999999999996, 'ALTERNATE_DRIVE': True, 'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,050::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,061::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,072::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,090::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'INERTIA_ANGLE': 0.69999999999999996, 'ALTERNATE_DRIVE': True, 'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,101::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Merlin-Orion' plugin with capacity 'pitchAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,113::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,124::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,135::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,145::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,164::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,187::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,198::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,208::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,219::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,230::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,241::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,263::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': u'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,274::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Merlin-Orion' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,298::Main::DEBUG::NkRemoteShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,309::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,323::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'USER_EXPOSURE_COMPENSATION_LIST': '-2, 0, +2', 'DRY_RUN': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'FILENAME_PREFIX': '', 'CAMERA_EXPOSURE_COMPENSATION_LIST': u'\xb15@1/2', 'OUTPUT_DIR': '/home/user', 'PROGRAM_PATH': 'C:\\Program Files\\BreezeSys\\NKRemote\\NKRemoteLibTest.exe'}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,336::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'NK Remote' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,369::Main::TRACE::PanoduinoAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,381::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,392::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,406::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'NEUTRAL_POSITION': 3000, 'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DIRECTION': u'forward', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'SPEED': 3}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,417::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Panoduino' plugin with capacity 'yawAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,429::Main::TRACE::PanoduinoAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,440::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,451::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,465::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'NEUTRAL_POSITION': 3000, 'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DIRECTION': u'forward', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'SPEED': 3}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,476::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Panoduino' plugin with capacity 'pitchAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,488::Main::TRACE::PanoduinoShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,499::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,510::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,521::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,532::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,547::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'VALUE_OFF': 0, 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'VALUE_ON': 127, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,558::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Panoduino' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,591::Main::TRACE::PixOrbAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,603::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,613::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,627::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'AXIS_ACCURACY': 0.10000000000000001, 'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0, 'SPEED_INDEX': 9, 'AXIS_WITH_BREAK': False}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,638::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'PixOrb' plugin with capacity 'yawAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,651::Main::TRACE::PixOrbAxis._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,662::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,673::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,688::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'AXIS_ACCURACY': 0.10000000000000001, 'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0, 'SPEED_INDEX': 9, 'AXIS_WITH_BREAK': False}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,699::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'PixOrb' plugin with capacity 'pitchAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,711::Main::TRACE::PixOrbShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,722::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,733::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,744::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,755::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,769::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,780::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'PixOrb' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,810::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,823::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'SPEED': 30, 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,834::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Simulation' plugin with capacity 'yawAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,847::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,859::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'HIGH_LIMIT': 360.0, 'SPEED': 30, 'LOW_LIMIT': -360.0}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,878::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Simulation' plugin with capacity 'pitchAxis'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,891::Main::TRACE::AbstractShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,902::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,914::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,925::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Simulation' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:04,948::Main::TRACE::TimelordShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,959::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:04,970::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'PROGRAM_PATH': 'C:\\Program Files\\OxfordEye\\Timelord\\Timelord.exe', 'LRD_FILE': 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\win2k\\My Documents\\timelord.lrd'}
2010-04-11 19:03:04,982::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Timelord' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,005::Main::TRACE::UrsaMinorBt2Shutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,016::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,026::Main::TRACE::UrsaMinorBt2Shutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,037::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,049::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,060::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,075::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'FOCUS_PULSE_WIDTH': 0.5, 'FOCUS_MAINTAIN': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'FOCUS_ENABLE': False, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:05,087::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Ursa Minor BT2' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,112::Main::TRACE::UrsaMinorUsbShutter._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,123::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._init()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,134::Main::TRACE::UrsaMinorUsbShutter._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,144::Main::TRACE::AbstractHardwarePlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,155::Main::TRACE::AbstractStandardShutterPlugin._defineConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,166::Main::TRACE::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,181::Main::DEBUG::AbstractPlugin._loadConfig(): config={'DRIVER_TYPE': 'bluetooth', 'PULSE_WIDTH_LOW': 200, 'BULB_ENABLE': False, 'MIRROR_LOCKUP': False, 'TRIGGER_LINE_INVERTED': False, 'BRACKETING_NB_PICTS': 1, 'TRIGGER_LINE': 'RTS', 'TIME_VALUE': 0.5, 'PULSE_WIDTH_HIGH': 200}
2010-04-11 19:03:05,192::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): added 'Ursa Minor USB' plugin with capacity 'shutter'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,203::Main::INFO::Loading user plugins...
2010-04-11 19:03:05,214::Main::DEBUG::PluginsManager.register(): parsing '/home/user/.config/papywizard2/plugins' dir...
2010-04-11 19:03:05,225::Main::INFO::Activate plugins...
2010-04-11 19:03:05,243::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionHardware.activate()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,260::Main::TRACE::MerlinOrionHardware.activate()
2010-04-11 19:03:05,284::Main::INFO::Creating model...
2010-04-11 19:03:05,322::Merlin-Orion_yawAxis::DEBUG::MerlinOrionAxis.run(): start thread
2010-04-11 19:03:05,336::Merlin-Orion_pitchAxis::DEBUG::MerlinOrionAxis.run(): start thread
2010-04-11 19:03:05,385::Main::INFO::Loading default presets
2010-04-11 19:03:05,732::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='4@0 + Z + N'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,753::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='3@-15 + Z'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,770::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='6@30 + 6@-15 + N'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,793::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='4@30 + 4@-30'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,813::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='6@30 + 6@-30'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,835::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='6@0 + Z + N'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,855::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='6@-10 + 1@+60'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,874::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='3 + 6 + 12 + 6 + 3 (28mm)'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,908::Main::DEBUG::Preset.__init__(): loading name='4 + 12 + 12 + 12 + 8 (32mm)'
2010-04-11 19:03:05,955::Main::INFO::Loading user presets
2010-04-11 19:03:05,967::Main::WARNING::No user presets found
2010-04-11 19:03:05,978::Main::INFO::Starting Spy...
2010-04-11 19:03:05,989::Main::INFO::Creating GUI...
2010-04-11 19:03:06,470::Spy::INFO::Starting Spy...
2010-04-11 19:03:06,481::Spy::INFO::Spy suspended
2010-04-11 19:03:07,660::Main::WARNING::MainController.__getFullScreenFlag(): fix fullScreenFlag property!!!Offline
If you don't get constant results, there still have a problem with the firmware...
There is not enough informations in the log you sent; could you post the part where the head is moving, ideally in both situations (7' and 14')? Try to see if Papywizard uses the 'alternate' move in both cases.
Question: does the problem only occur when you change the reference position (using the central button, in the arrows)?
Can you also post the log when the head drifts off? This problem can be a communication problem.
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Thanks for your reply Frédéric,
I'm short on time today but will try and post some logs this evening. In the meantime can anyone try and answer my questions below?
1) How fast are other users able to shoot a 5 x 10 @ 200mm? Is 7 min a good speed or can this be improved?
2) Is your merlin head stable / consistent when shooting with a long lens? My system works occasionally works fast but often works with a slow pitch, yaw or both.
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
4) Are my expectations too high for the merlin head? Papywizard is a great bit of software but maybe I need to look into different hardware are there stable hardware options?
All the best!
Will
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iamwill wrote:
Are my expectations too high for the merlin head? Papywizard is a great bit of software but maybe I need to look into different hardware are there stable hardware options?
I think you should be able to get an acceptable result with Merlin+Papywizard but here are a few alternatives - all much more costly than Merlin+Papywizard, but then that Hassselblad wasn't cheap either.
Pixorb - Papywizard plug-ins available - most expensive, upwards of US$10,000- APP/APG have Papywizard import wizard:
http://www.peaceriverstudios.com/pixorb/index.html
Rodeon VR - middling expensive, upwards of Euros 3,000 - APG has Rodeon VR import wizard - Kolor used a special dual camera variant of this head for the Paris 26GP pano:
http://www.dr-clauss.de/products_e.htm
Gigapan Epic Pro - seems rather 'flimsy'? - don't think it could handle that Hasselblad - least expensive of these three, approx. £890 - APP/APG have Gigapan import wizard:
http://gigapansystems.com/gigapan-epic-pro.html
http://www.360tacticalvr.com/gigapan.html
Yet another approach - use the T&C controller with Merlin, rather than Bluetooth+Papywizard - it is said to run faster:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/index.php?t … mp;up=cont
http://www.typeandcolour.de/PDFs/EN_Manual.pdf
Last edited by mediavets (2010-04-14 15:20:07)
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iamwill wrote:
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
Yaw control can go 'loopy' if light leaks through the base of the bubble level on the mount and upsets the optical encoder on the yaw servo motor.
Put some black tape under the level (from inside the battery cover) to avoid this potential problem.
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iamwill wrote:
1) How fast are other users able to shoot a 5 x 10 @ 200mm? Is 7 min a good speed or can this be improved?
I have two Merlin heads/mounts.
I ran 4 trials with each head - Papy/Merlin Bluetooth-N800 connection , Papywizard 2.1.17.
Using external 12v DC lead-acid battery pack.
Settings:
Mosaic 10 Yaw x 5 Pitch.
Stabilisation delay - 0.5 sec.
Sensor (coef, ratio) 1.6x 3:2
Lens (type,focal ) rectilinear 200mm
Shutter time value 0.5 sec
No mirror lock up
No bracketing
Timing results:
Head 1 - 6 min. 18 sec. - 6:20 - 6:30 - 6:17
Head 2 - 6 min 15 sec. - 6:24 - 6:20 - 6:14
Comment:
It is suggested in the manual for the T&C controller that the Merlin head will run more slowly if you use internal NiMH batteries in the Merlin head.
I've not seen this mentioned by anyone else, but....
T&C offers a kit to modify/upgrade the Merlin head to use Li-Ion batteries:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/index.php?t … mp;up=batt
The claim is that:
"With LI-ION batteries is the speed 20 % higher, and 6000 instead of 3000 picture positions compared to standard AA batteries."
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iamwill wrote:
1) How fast are other users able to shoot a 5 x 10 @ 200mm? Is 7 min a good speed or can this be improved?
2) Is your merlin head stable / consistent when shooting with a long lens? My system works occasionally works fast but often works with a slow pitch, yaw or both.
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
4) Are my expectations too high for the merlin head? Papywizard is a great bit of software but maybe I need to look into different hardware are there stable hardware
Hi Will!
Related to a really professional camera you should consider a really professional head. The Rodeon or the PixOrb as examples are the only really professional ones yet.
You should face costs in a range between 4000.-/7000.-€ then.
Paying some 20000.-€ for a H3DII/50 and a basic set of lenses lenses both head´s prices seem to be not extraordinary high - professional gear never can be cheap!
The Merlin is neither really professional nor is it really fast - but it´s a damn good compromise of price and performance.
I shot some high res pictures using a 300mm Nikon on my Canon and it worked perfect. I didn´t measure the time - but it takes some time
*of course* to walk from position to position with sufficient accuracy.
The accuracy is very good indeed.
As is said already: there´s no alternative to the Merlin at the moment at a comparable price. Josef - the designer of the TC Controller - is working on a head which is faster and more sturdy than the Merlin and will be controllable via PapyWizard or via Josef´s TC Controller.
I guess he takes some months to finish - i´ll get a prototype for intensive tests in May/June.
I realized Josef´s TC Controller speeds up the Merlin remarkably - i´ll do some time and accuracy measures using my 300mm Nikon and will simulate a 200mm mosaic of 5x10 pics using PapyWizard on N800 and alternatively the TC-Controller.
You also should consider a wait-time before every shot to lock-up the mirror and give the combination time enough to end vibrations before releasing the shutter. This also takes time!
best, Klaus
P.S.: Merlin should take a H3DII.
But you should take care not to move the head by hand - the glitch pads wear off very fast then. But you can tighten the srews of both axis easily.
Always move the head just by the motors!
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iamwill wrote:
1) How fast are other users able to shoot a 5 x 10 @ 200mm? Is 7 min a good speed or can this be improved?
Don't have time to make tests, but Andrew gave his results.
2) Is your merlin head stable / consistent when shooting with a long lens? My system works occasionally works fast but often works with a slow pitch, yaw or both.
This is not normal... You didn't answer to my question: do you experience slow moves when changing the reference (little home button inside arrows)? Maybe by mistake? I just removed this button, and moved it to the hadware menu, as I often click it when using the arrows 
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
No, it is not a feature! Com. problem?
4) Are my expectations too high for the merlin head? Papywizard is a great bit of software but maybe I need to look into different hardware are there stable hardware options?
No, I also shot several panos at 200mm (320, in fact, on my EOS 20D)...
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fma38 wrote:
3) Occasionally when shooting the head just drifts off on the yaw and I have to stop it manually. Is this a known problem?
No, it is not a feature! Com. problem?
I assist Andrew here: stick a tape under the bubble-level. Bright light can irritate the motor´s optical sensor which is nearby under the level.
best, Klaus
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I just started a run of 30°x30° using 300mm on a 20D (1.6).
I can´t set a dedicated number of shots but an angle or start-end points of a mosaic (and spheres of course).
So i chose the 30°x30° and 300mm lens. The TC computes 190 pictures. Tat will take some time because the steps are very narrow using a
300mm with 1.6 - its 480mm then.
I forgot: stab-delay= 1 Sec. 25% overlap.
I´ll tell you how long it takes 
After that i´ll do a run using 105mm on 1.6 = 168mm - maybe that comes closer to your results . . . 
I suggest to make a contest using angles instead of shots - as i told: i can´t set a number of shots in the TC.
best, Klaus
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Just for understanding, what is the cost of Josef's controller? I cant find any pricing reference on the site or here either.
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klausesser wrote:
I suggest to make a contest using angles instead of shots - as i told: i can´t set a number of shots in the TC.
best, Klaus
Klaus,
To compute/estimate angles for the T&C controller - in Papywizard, use my test settings - configure a 10 Yaw x 5 Pitch mosaic and then read the Pano FOV angles?
I read them as 33.3 Yaw x 25.7 Pitch.
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The 30x30° angle using 300mm at 1.6 crop took 15min. with the TC.
I´m now runnig 90x90°=145 shots using 105mm at 1.6 crop = 163mm.
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solock wrote:
Just for understanding, what is the cost of Josef's controller? I cant find any pricing reference on the site or here either.
It is on the datasheet:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/PDFs/EN_Controller.pdf
Euros 199 + VAT (I think that's 19% in Germany but only applicable to sales within the EU).
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mediavets wrote:
es?
I read them as 33.3 Yaw x 25.7 Pitch.
Not far away from 30x30 is it . .
Use your setting with 300mm@1.6 crop!
best, Klaua
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mediavets wrote:
solock wrote:
Just for understanding, what is the cost of Josef's controller? I cant find any pricing reference on the site or here either.
It is on the datasheet:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/PDFs/EN_Controller.pdf
Euros 199 + VAT (I think that's 19% in Germany but only applicable to sales within the EU).
Isn´t VAT included? (we call it "Mehrwertsteuer")
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klausesser wrote:
The 30x30° angle using 300mm at 1.6 crop took 15min. with the TC.
That's for 190 images? If so, then on the face of it it's approx. 2x as fast compared to controlling via Papywizard.
Are you using the T&C Li-Ion internal batteries?
............
Regardless of the lens actually used, can you not configure the T&C to 'emulate' a 1.6x crop with 200mm lens and time that for angles I proposed? - which should I think result in a 10x5 mosaic.
Then we might have more directly comparable results.
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klausesser wrote:
mediavets wrote:
solock wrote:
Just for understanding, what is the cost of Josef's controller? I cant find any pricing reference on the site or here either.
It is on the datasheet:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/PDFs/EN_Controller.pdf
Euros 199 + VAT (I think that's 19% in Germany but only applicable to sales within the EU).Isn´t VAT included? (we call it "Mehrwertsteuer")
I think not:
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Sorry -i had to break up the test to go to a meeting.
Redo it in the evening.
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mediavets wrote:
klausesser wrote:
mediavets wrote:
It is on the datasheet:
http://www.typeandcolour.de/PDFs/EN_Controller.pdf
Euros 199 + VAT (I think that's 19% in Germany but only applicable to sales within the EU).Isn´t VAT included? (we call it "Mehrwertsteuer")
I think not:
oops - i see . . didn´t realize . . 
best, Klaus
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mediavets wrote:
klausesser wrote:
The 30x30° angle using 300mm at 1.6 crop took 15min. with the TC.
That's for 190 images? If so, then on the face of it it's approx. 2x as fast compared to controlling via Papywizard.
Are you using the T&C Li-Ion internal batteries?
............
Regardless of the lens actually used, can you not configure the T&C to 'emulate' a 1.6x crop with 200mm lens and time that for angles I proposed? - which should I think result in a 10x5 mosaic.
Then we might have more directly comparable results.
1) I use the TC Li-Ion batteries.
2) Yep - i´ll do that.
(sorry to be a bit short - i have to hurry)
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ran a test now shooting a sphere.
lens:20mm,
camera/crop: Canon 20D/1.6
# of shots: 45 incl. 2 Zenith, no Nadir.
overlap: 25%
wait: 1sec.
time: 5min. exactly
Papy takes 8min @ 40 shots.
later more
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klausesser wrote:
mediavets wrote:
klausesser wrote:
Isn´t VAT included? (we call it "Mehrwertsteuer")
I think not:
oops - i see . . didn´t realize . .
best, Klaus
It appears to cost Euros 250 excluding VAT (Euros 299 Including VAT) when purchased from the Kolor web store:
http://www.kolor.com/buy/photo-hardware … re=default
But maybe this isn't quite the same item.
Last edited by mediavets (2010-04-14 23:18:26)
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As far as the timing is concerned, you can read this thread. If the head is moved in terms of 10 degrees, the shot can be taken less than 5 seconds per shot.
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