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#1 2010-03-03 01:58:13

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Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

I shot a 360 degree panorama of a lecture hall here on campus with a Nikon D300 and Samyang 8mm fisheye at f/11.  However, no matter what options I set in the renderer, I can't get a few areas to line up properly.  I've linked close-ups of the mis-stitched areas below.

Do I need to set manual control points?  I've tried playing with manual CP, but it seems that every time I add a new control point between images, old links are removed.

Thanks in advance for the help.

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab331/myang322/Hodson.png

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab331/myang322/Closeup-2.png

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab331/myang322/Closeup-1.png

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#2 2010-03-03 09:22:47

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

Welcome  to the forum.

I guess you've seen the tutorial on manual stitching?:
http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ … _panoramas

If you like you could put your image set on-line somewhere (preferably as a ZIP file) and I'd be happy to download and have a go at stitching it.

I suspect that you may not have the camera/lens set quite correctly on your pano head and hence have parallax errors  - BTW what pano head are you using?

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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#3 2010-03-04 03:28:57

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

mediavets wrote:

Welcome  to the forum.

I guess you've seen the tutorial on manual stitching?:
http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ … _panoramas

If you like you could put your image set on-line somewhere (preferably as a ZIP file) and I'd be happy to download and have a go at stitching it.

I suspect that you may not have the camera/lens set quite correctly on your pano head and hence have parallax errors  - BTW what pano head are you using?

For this test shot, I didn't use a dedicated pano head.  I simply used a Manfrotto 055 tripod with a 488RC2 ballhead.  The ballhead has a pan-lock feature, which I used for this pano.  Our school has a project where we are designing a custom, programmable pano head, but since we're still working on the code I decided to try some test shots to test out Autopano with.

Here is a link to the original files used in the pano:
http://rapidshare.com/files/358625921/H … t_Pano.zip

Thanks for the help!

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#4 2010-03-04 09:04:11

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

jhugigapixel wrote:

For this test shot, I didn't use a dedicated pano head.  I simply used a Manfrotto 055 tripod with a 488RC2 ballhead.  The ballhead has a pan-lock feature, which I used for this pano.

There's the answer then....you have unresolvable parallax errors because you are not rotating the camera around the No Parallax Point.


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#5 2010-03-05 19:52:11

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

mediavets wrote:

jhugigapixel wrote:

For this test shot, I didn't use a dedicated pano head.  I simply used a Manfrotto 055 tripod with a 488RC2 ballhead.  The ballhead has a pan-lock feature, which I used for this pano.

There's the answer then....you have unresolvable parallax errors because you are not rotating the camera around the No Parallax Point.

Could you elaborate on this?  How do you ensure that the camera is rotating around the no parallax point?

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#6 2010-03-05 20:31:32

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

jhugigapixel wrote:

mediavets wrote:

jhugigapixel wrote:

For this test shot, I didn't use a dedicated pano head.  I simply used a Manfrotto 055 tripod with a 488RC2 ballhead.  The ballhead has a pan-lock feature, which I used for this pano.

There's the answer then....you have unresolvable parallax errors because you are not rotating the camera around the No Parallax Point.

Could you elaborate on this?  How do you ensure that the camera is rotating around the no parallax point?

Errr...you use a properly calibrated (set up) dedicated pano head. roll


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#7 2010-03-05 21:53:52

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

jhugigapixel wrote:

mediavets wrote:

jhugigapixel wrote:

For this test shot, I didn't use a dedicated pano head.  I simply used a Manfrotto 055 tripod with a 488RC2 ballhead.  The ballhead has a pan-lock feature, which I used for this pano.

There's the answer then....you have unresolvable parallax errors because you are not rotating the camera around the No Parallax Point.

Could you elaborate on this?  How do you ensure that the camera is rotating around the no parallax point?

If you have a panohead, see this http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ … a_panohead
if you don't, see http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ … a_panohead

If you don't rotate around the NPP, you will have parallax.  You may be able to stitch the front row of tables in your image without a glitch, but that will throw off the back row.

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#8 2010-03-06 00:40:34

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

Hi everyone,  Thanks for the input!

Here's a few pictures of our current custom-designed programmable mount (not the tripod that I took the test shots on):

http://jhu.edu/gigapixel/Virtual_JHU_Gi … unt.html#6

http://jhu.edu/gigapixel/Virtual_JHU_Gi … unt.html#7

Would we have to make any changes to this mount in order to eliminate parallax?  We can move the camera forward/backward to align the center of the lens with the point of rotation, and also raise/lower the camera in the mount to line up the center of the lens with the vertical point of rotation. 

Could you guys give some opinions on what we should do (if anything) to completely eliminate parallax with this mount design?

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#9 2010-03-06 00:52:35

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

jhugigapixel wrote:

Would we have to make any changes to this mount in order to eliminate parallax?  We can move the camera forward/backward to align the center of the lens with the point of rotation, and also raise/lower the camera in the mount to line up the center of the lens with the vertical point of rotation.

Those are all the forms of adjustment you need to be able to do to set the camera/lens at the NPP.

But the 'centre of the lens' is not likely to be the fore-aft NPP.

The chain drive is novel.

Did you consider also providing an alternative way to mounting the camera in portrait orientation?

Maybe you could write some plug-ins to control this mount using Papywizard?

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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#10 2010-03-06 08:47:07

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

Your panohead project looks great !

Did you saw this one : Media Design School Auckland students project: Spherical HDR Robot which is somewhat different because HDR and Image Based Lighting were the main target but which certainly share many constraints and possible solutions with your's?


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#11 2010-03-06 09:13:46

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Re: Newbie here-how do I fix a few mis-stitched sections in the panorama?

They seem all to all end up looking rather alike.

Pixorb: http://www.peaceriverstudios.com/pixorb/index.html

Rodeon VR Station: http://www.dr-clauss.de/VRstation_EN.htm


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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