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#1 2010-02-20 18:52:39

Marv
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FOV and speed controls.

APT needs the following basic controls.
1.  Better FOV control that have meaningfull values. 
2.  Limit rotation speed. 
3.  Limit the zoom speed.
4.  A way to straighten and set the Horizonal plain in a 360 X 180 pano.

Here I am trying to promote VT's and my perspective clients all say... Whoo, that move make me dizzy... can you turn the speed down?



Thanks Marv.


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#2 2010-02-20 19:18:08

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Marv wrote:

4.  A way to straighten and set the Horizonal plain in a 360 X 180 pano.

This should not be a problem.

Can you show me an example where this is a problem?


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
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#3 2010-03-03 01:36:40

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Sure Andrew,

Shot Vertical:
Oppisite walls tilt in oppisite directions.
The only thing I can figure out is that this was the first use of my pano head before I beefed it up as the weight of the camera tilted slightly (maybe 2 degees off vertical).  After I strengthened the bracket up for more shots the next day after the room was decorated... I had no problems with my camera tilting or the rooms horizon lines.

All attempts to straighten this failed, and normally I do pretty good fixing when I'm forced to hand hold.


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#4 2010-03-03 05:03:48

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Though it will be nice to control auto rotation speed it wont help much as I have tested this manually it still gives some people that dizziness.

Whoo, that move make me dizzy... can you turn the speed down?

as of now you can switch auto rotation off that makes you dizzy, manually rotating does not do that much unless you are viewing the pano on a slower machine.

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#5 2010-03-03 08:15:49

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Marv wrote:

4.  A way to straighten and set the Horizonal plain in a 360 X 180 pano.

you can and should do this in Autopano Pro/Giga. Not in Autopano Tour


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Martin

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#6 2010-03-03 09:15:56

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Marv wrote:

Sure Andrew,

Shot Vertical:
Oppisite walls tilt in oppisite directions.
The only thing I can figure out is that this was the first use of my pano head before I beefed it up as the weight of the camera tilted slightly (maybe 2 degees off vertical).  After I strengthened the bracket up for more shots the next day after the room was decorated... I had no problems with my camera tilting or the rooms horizon lines.

All attempts to straighten this failed, and normally I do pretty good fixing when I'm forced to hand hold.

The vertical lines tool in the Panorama Editor didn't help?:
http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/action/ … a_panorama


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#7 2010-03-03 13:19:18

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Marv wrote:

APT needs the following basic controls.
1.  Better FOV control that have meaningfull values. 
2.  Limit rotation speed. 
3.  Limit the zoom speed.
4.  A way to straighten and set the Horizonal plain in a 360 X 180 pano.

Here I am trying to promote VT's and my perspective clients all say... Whoo, that move make me dizzy... can you turn the speed down?



Thanks Marv.

Marv - the behavior of the panos and tours built wit APT is controlled by .xml files. You need to deal with that if you want to go beyond what APT provides.
You need the KRPano tools to do the more sophisticated things.
APT is just a try to build a frontend for KRPano. That works fine on a basic level. To get more you need to dig into xml.

best, Klaus


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#8 2010-03-03 17:02:13

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Andrew:
No, it made them worse. 

Klaus:
Thanks for the helpful explination.  I see KPR tools is coming up with some great tools.

Mague:
Yes, I'm well aware of that, but I could not resolve the issue in APG, and was hopeing for a solution in APT.

Thanks to all for a quick reply.
Marv.


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#9 2010-03-03 17:50:29

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

Marv wrote:

Andrew:
No, it made them worse.

Really - I am surprised.

How many images comprise that pano?

Do you fancy putting them on-line somewhere - asa ZIP file - so we could try and stitch them to see where the problem may be?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm  lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Agno's Mrotator TCSshort
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#10 2010-03-03 19:16:19

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Re: FOV and speed controls.

3x8=24.   This is a rough before shot and I wanted it to look ugly so I used jpg files.   Orig files are 57megs.  But I'll also put up Webready files 18.3 megs on my FTP. 
See your email shortly and I'll send you instructions for download.

Thanks Much.


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