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#1 2010-02-01 14:00:32

baidarkabob
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rendering speed

Hi,

I am using autopano pro 2 on an intel macbook pro with 2.4GHz processor and  4gb of ram. I am using this hardware to run windows xp sp3.

What kind of rendering speed should I expect with a 13 image panorama of 33483 x 5635 pixels when doing just the basic processing?

Thanks,

b

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#2 2010-02-01 15:01:28

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Re: rendering speed

baidarkabob wrote:

Hi,

I am using autopano pro 2 on an intel macbook pro with 2.4GHz processor and  4gb of ram. I am using this hardware to run windows xp sp3.

What kind of rendering speed should I expect with a 13 image panorama of 33483 x 5635 pixels when doing just the basic processing?

Thanks,

b

impossible to guess - try it. Tell what you experienced and we can discuss about.
There´s a lot factors of influence. Do you run Snow Leopard in 64bit? (check system profiler -> "Software" whether the 64bit kernel is activated).
Essential is a fast external drive for APP´s temp - that speeds up.

best, Klaus

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#3 2010-02-01 15:34:56

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Re: rendering speed

klausesser wrote:

Do you run Snow Leopard in 64bit? (check system profiler -> "Software" whether the 64bit kernel is activated).
Essential is a fast external drive for APP´s temp - that speeds up.

best, Klaus

Klaus,
He's running Windows XP SP3 - 32-bit I assume - on the Mac hardware.


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#4 2010-02-02 13:56:01

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Re: rendering speed

Klaus is correct.

It took about an hour to process the image I mentioned above using "normal priority". That seems overly long and I am trying to figure out why it is so.

I will try again with an external 7200 rpm HD with 150GB free as the scratch disk.

Any suggestions for a fast, reliable, small, high capacity external hard drive? I have been using iomega drives and I am convinced they are junk.

b

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#5 2010-02-02 14:38:38

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Re: rendering speed

The second time I created the panorama, this time using the external HD as a scratch disk, it took half the time - 32 minutes. This still seems overly long. The other pano program I am using, panorama maker pro5, takes about 4 minutes to stitch these same images.

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#6 2010-02-02 14:47:46

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Re: rendering speed

baidarkabob wrote:

The second time I created the panorama, this time using the external HD as a scratch disk, it took half the time - 32 minutes. This still seems overly long. The other pano program I am using, panorama maker pro5, takes about 4 minutes to stitch these same images.

Which interpolator and blender are you using?


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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800 and Windows XP/2K

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#7 2010-02-02 14:51:43

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Re: rendering speed

Bicubic and Smartblend.

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#8 2010-02-02 15:50:49

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Re: rendering speed

baidarkabob wrote:

The second time I created the panorama, this time using the external HD as a scratch disk, it took half the time - 32 minutes. This still seems overly long. The other pano program I am using, panorama maker pro5, takes about 4 minutes to stitch these same images.

So you mean stitching AND rendering?
How are the results from Panorama Maker 5? Does it use smartblend too? See: smartblend is very hardware-demanding. Maybe multiblend does also, but much faster.
Did you run an optimization in PM5? APP/APG runs optimization automatically when stitching - takes a little time.
Did you activate GPU support in APP/APG`s prefs? That speeds up optimization and the editor very much.

I think 32min. overall isn´t too bad - and 33483 x 5635 pixels is not just small . . . cool - after all it´s a very complex process!

best, Klaus


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#9 2010-02-02 18:04:08

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Re: rendering speed

Heh, this is a nice result for such unfortunate mix of hardware and software! What you need is 4 more gigs of ram in that laptop, then install a proper OS - Windows 7 x64 or the latest OSX (it's also 64-bit). Or just a normal workstation for a fraction of this laptop's price big_smile

Try using Multiband (instead of SmartBlend) and compare the times. If you get a big difference, read carefully those topics:
http://www.autopano.net/forum/t7799-nor … ring-times
http://www.autopano.net/forum/t7852-ult … xel-images
http://www.autopano.net/forum/t7850-sma … ion-sum-up


Some of my panoramas, posted in the Autopano Pro flickr group.

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#10 2010-02-02 20:40:53

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Re: rendering speed

Why are you using Windows on a Mac?

It took 4 minutes, 52 seconds to render a larger pano on my Mac Pro with only 3 GB RAM.

- Mac Pro 2.66 Quad-Core Intel Xeon
- 3 GB RAM
- Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6.2)
- APP 2.0.6, 64 bit enabled
- Scratch disk for APP is a Serial ATA internal drive, speed 3 GB, 740 GB free.

Pano size: 118872 x 5936 pixels (no downsizing)
19 images, 67 links, 2614 control points
Bicubic, Smartblend

I find that if I have a lot of big applications open, it helps to log out and back in again to clear memory. Then I open only APP and do the rendering. When the memory has been cleared this way, I hear no writing to disk during rendering. Everything happens in the processor. When the blending is complete, then I hear the computer writing to disk.

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#11 2010-02-07 13:07:24

baidarkabob
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Re: rendering speed

Hi Folks,

Switching to the Mac side this program runs an order of magnitude faster. I am suspicious that my windows installation might be a bit screwed up so I will check into that. I would not bother with windows if I did not spend so much time using ArcGIS. No need to use this thread to extol the benefits of Mac over Windows, etc. I am satisfactorily educated in this matter.

Thanks again for the feedback.

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