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#1 2009-11-29 15:33:27

360pano
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2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Hi,

my first spherical panorama with my Merlin:

65000*32500px, 2.1 gigapixel, 233 images:

http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/index.html

Pentax K20D + FA 50mm

grtz Tobias

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#2 2009-11-29 17:24:21

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

This is a great full-spherical pano! The quality is amazing, and the subject very nice. Very good job!


Frédéric

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#3 2009-11-29 18:13:35

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Very nice work. Congratulations!

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#4 2009-11-29 22:23:05

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

stunning !


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#5 2009-11-30 00:52:45

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

360pano wrote:

Hi,

my first spherical panorama with my Merlin:

65000*32500px, 2.1 gigapixel, 233 images:

http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/index.html

Pentax K20D + FA 50mm

grtz Tobias

Tobias,

I wish I could produce panos as good as this.

Did you use a custom preset for shooting?

Did you use expsoure bracketing?

What aperture did you use to get such good DOF?

How did you shoot the nadir images?

Did you use the Papywizard Import wizard when stitching?


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#6 2009-11-30 02:01:00

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

360pano wrote:

Hi,

my first spherical panorama with my Merlin:

65000*32500px, 2.1 gigapixel, 233 images:

http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/index.html

Pentax K20D + FA 50mm

grtz Tobias

Hi Tobias!

Great!!

best, Klaus


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#7 2009-11-30 13:31:56

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Great image.


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#8 2009-11-30 13:42:12

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Very impressive, thanks for sharing

Henrik

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#9 2009-11-30 15:23:19

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

mediavets wrote:

Did you use a custom preset for shooting?

Yes, Zenit and 8*29:
http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/preset.jpg

Did you use expsoure bracketing?

No.

What aperture did you use to get such good DOF?

F11, but it needed for 81 images to use focus stacking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_stacking

How did you shoot the nadir images?

I move the tripod 2 meters away and shot 8 images @ 45° down for a nadir panorama.
And then I retouch with photoshop the images ( cube nadir + nadir panorama ).

Did you use the Papywizard Import wizard when stitching?

Yes, CP RMS =3.03:
http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/import.jpg

Regards Tobias

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#10 2009-12-03 02:29:01

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Very impressive. Now I really want to get myself a Merlin/Papywizard setup!

360Pano  wrote:

F11, but it needed for 81 images to use focus stacking:

I understand focus stacking but what do you mean here about needing 81 images?

Thanks

Brian

Last edited by BrianLR (2009-12-03 02:29:30)


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#11 2009-12-03 15:11:04

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

81 of the 233 images required focus stacking, I hope you understand now?

Tobias

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#12 2009-12-03 15:31:20

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

360pano wrote:

81 of the 233 images required focus stacking, I hope you understand now?

Tobias

Tobias

Did you shoot focus stacked images for the entire pano and then later select those shots that required focus stacking? I mean did you repeat the pano shoots wiith automatic shooting several times with a different focus setting or did you shoot step-by-step and addjust the focus for the stacks as you shot the pano? O5r did you use some sort of tehered shooting focus bracketing script?

How many different focus settings did you have in the stack?

What software did you use for focus stacking of those 81 shooting positions before you stitched the pano?

Last edited by mediavets (2009-12-03 15:31:38)


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#13 2009-12-03 15:57:36

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

I shoot with the template and when I come to a position where are required a different focus I paused the shooting. Then I shoot the different focus points and after this i started the automatik again ( step-by-step ).

How many different focus settings did you have in the stack?

2 or 3

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#14 2009-12-03 16:09:45

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

360pano wrote:

I shoot with the template and when I come to a position where are required a different focus I paused the shooting. Then I shoot the different focus points and after this i started the automatik again ( step-by-step ).

How many different focus settings did you have in the stack?

2 or 3

Tobias,

Thanks - now I understand - that's very clever. Because doing it that way the XML file still works with the stacked focus shooting positions.

I am in awe of your imagination, dedication and ability.

Last edited by mediavets (2009-12-03 16:10:37)


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#15 2009-12-03 16:31:15

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

mediavets wrote:

Because doing it that way the XML file still works with the stacked focus shooting positions.

Yes, I stacking first the 81 images and then import 233 images with XML.

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#16 2009-12-04 00:33:17

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Absolutely incredible! Details, details, details!!!


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#17 2009-12-26 13:07:40

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

Absolutely superb!!

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#18 2009-12-27 14:07:18

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

360pano wrote:

mediavets wrote:

Did you use a custom preset for shooting?

Yes, Zenit and 8*29:

http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/preset.jpg

As having 29 images per row results in the proper overlap at the horizon level (aka along the the equator of the sphere) the other rows are including too many shoots.

This is not obvious on the above preset image because it uses the equirectangular format. This would be obvious if using Autopano http://www.autopano.net/wiki-en/images-en/7/71/Layer_mode_off.png tool to display overlap of top row images (in the preview the topmost images have a larger extent than the pitch=0 images.)

I will skip the (sinus (pitch)) maths and only say that a more refined preset would includes about 150 images rather than about 230.  Probable benefits:
- shorter shooting session
- less lighting differences when outdoor
- smaller memory card, less battery usage, faster and more secure Smartblend rendering
- much faster optimization and better RMS.

Improvements in optimization and RMS are impossible to predict but "too much overlap" results in an excessive number of links and in a very  inadequate global repartition of the links (in your case a huge number of useless links at the top of the sphere for example.)

To verify the above is easy: delete source images in the top most rows (leaving for example 4 images only in the row next to the zenith image) until overlap is too narrow...


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#19 2010-01-17 13:42:49

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Re: 2,1 gigapixel spherical panorama

I have updated my preset with the Phython programm from GURL:
PapySpheric: a Python program to build templates for panospheres

Code:

#####################  THE  9  PARAMETERS  YOU  MUST  SET  ARE  THERE
                    #  ##################################################
f= 50               # mm, for example 50 mm
Vside= 23.4         # mm, for example 36 mm  \  portrait / landscape
Hside= 15.6         # mm, for example 24 mm  /  orientation found there
phiMin= -90         # degrees, from -90 (nadir) toward 90
phiMax= 90          # degrees, up to 90 (zenith) toward -90
Hoverlap= 0.3       # horizontal overlap, coef from 0 to 0.5 (0% to 50 %)
Voverlap= 0.3       # vertical overlap, coef from 0 up to more than 0.5
                    #
panoheadPhiMin= -90 # degrees, from -90 (nadir)  \ avoids the camera or lens
panoheadPhiMax= 90  # degrees, up to 90 (zenith) / hitting the pano head !
                    #
#####################

Now i needed to shoot 200 images:

http://www.360pano.de/giga/kirche/preset-new.jpg

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