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#1 2009-06-13 02:10:01

tarnis
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A new issue...maybe the final.

Seemed like I finally had the kinks worked out, made a new shutter cable and it worked.  Went up to Buffalo, NY to help my wife with some work and hit NIagara Falls earlier expecting to make a pano and boom.  Can't connect to the head.

The head was wrapped in some towels and checked in...no room in the camera bag unfortunately.  Don't know what could have happened there if anything.

Figuring there was no power to the head from my freshly charged the night before batteries I checked to see if one was loose...first thing I assumed.  3 mile schlep down the gorge for our first stop.  They were attached, however one of the battery holders is slightly melted...no equipment here to see if it's still gotten power coming out of it.  I know the surplus place I bought most of my components from sells a similar piece, but they get packed 2 in front of the other two so it may be too long.  for now though it does me no good as the store is in Florida.

My wife having just broke her laptop's power adapter had just bought one with multiple tips.  Voltage may not have been right but plugging in the one with the best fit to the power in terminal did power things, and I could connect but it couldn't read X/Y axis so may not have been enough power.

Seeing the connecters on the battery holders can I plug in two 9v batteries?  I think that's more then what I get out of the 8 AA's but gets me around the battery holder issue.  What would have caused the meltdown of the holder?  I don't typically leave the batteries in when I'm not using it as I have a ha bit of forgetting to shut the head off.

Would appreciate any help, don't have much time here...

Thanks,
Matt

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#2 2009-06-13 02:35:26

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

tarnis wrote:

My wife having just broke her laptop's power adapter had just bought one with multiple tips.  Voltage may not have been right but plugging in the one with the best fit to the power in terminal did power things, and I could connect but it couldn't read X/Y axis so may not have been enough power.

Thanks,
Matt

I use an external PSU which provides 12VDC and 500mA and this is sufficient.


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#3 2009-06-13 03:01:40

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Battery holders melt when too much current is being drawn (the load is too heavy) or if you short them.

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#4 2009-06-13 03:29:40

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Any recomendations on one....

what would cause the excess power draw?  I've not modified anything internally and have stayed within the weight limmits of the heads specs.

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#5 2009-06-13 18:49:27

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Hi Tarnis,

TARNIS  wrote:

Seeing the connecters on the battery holders can I plug in two 9v batteries?

The answer is NO, NO,NO ! mad
The resulting will be 18 volts, this is much to high ...
What You can do is to use "only one 9V battery" and bridge the other connector with a small cable or something similar !

9 volts is OK and you can change batteries when the power will become low ... 

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#6 2009-06-13 19:47:37

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

A 9V battery won't work a very long time...


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#7 2009-06-14 14:56:53

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

what sort of external batteries are you all using?

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#8 2009-06-14 16:04:39

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

tarnis wrote:

what sort of external batteries are you all using?

I use a 7AH lead acid battery.


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#9 2009-06-14 16:14:07

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

tarnis wrote:

what sort of external batteries are you all using?

Try your car-battery. It´s 12V. The head only takes the power that he needs.
(i mean that in your case out there at the Falls with no supplier nearby, of course . . cool)

best, Klaus

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#10 2009-06-16 01:05:50

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Well, back home...never had time to really do anything to fix it unfortunatly.  Was sort of the side trip of the trip.  Pulled out my volt meter and the bigger terminal on top of the melted battery pack seperated from the rest(it spins arround loosly).  I don't really see though how it attached to the inside, I just know when I touch the other terminal to the spring above the battery I get my connection but not the terminal attached to the spring.

Do these things have a name I might be able to order a new one?  Other then the fact that they melted is there a particular reason folks have gone with external batteries over rechargables plugged into the battery holders?

Andrew: Are you using one of these...
http://www.batteryprice.com/bp7-12t212v … ttery.aspx
5-6lbs is a bit hefty to carry?  What sort of stuff are you shooting.

Other then that I'll have to settle for my 4photo pano's rather then the 40photo panos I wanted.  c'est la vie.

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#11 2009-06-16 03:52:04

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index … Id=2062239

Radio shack carries the part, 270-383

orlando search in the radioshack lookup shows it at dozens of radioshacks in the orlando area...


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#12 2009-06-16 12:33:17

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

tarnis wrote:

Andrew: Are you using one of these...
http://www.batteryprice.com/bp7-12t212v … ttery.aspx
5-6lbs is a bit hefty to carry?  What sort of stuff are you shooting.

I use one of these - http://www.pulsar-optical.co.uk/prod/Sk … upply.html
Not as heavy as it looks but weight is not a major issue as I shoot panos of scenes I can drive to.


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#13 2009-06-17 04:22:35

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Thanks Steve, gave up on radioshack once I built the cable...  they're not quite what they used to be and didn't even think to look for these after seeing the selection as opposed to 10 years ago.  Anyways that did the trick, head seems to be working again.  Praying it survives the trip to Alaska in August...half the reason I bought it.

Need to look through for a good thread on external power supplies I guess.  Saw several potential options at the surplus electronics store.  The guy was trying to tell me I needed...ugh, I forget the term, but essentially a big power brick if I plan to use an external source even when I was looking at 12v batteries.  Is this so?  For $2 each I'm thinking it might be better to just buy more rechargable AA's and use the holders though.

Needless to say, the head lives on to fight another day.

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#14 2009-06-17 04:45:13

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Re: A new issue...maybe the final.

Hi Tarnis have you had a ead of this thread http://www.autopano.net/forum/t5269-pow … rlin-orion

I opted to go for this unit as it has a small footprint and a large capacity.
I don't know if it would be available to the US.

you could also possibly go for this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4500mA-12V-Super- … |294%3A100

Best
Gordon


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