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#1 2009-05-09 11:19:33

machart
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APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

since version 2 my fisheye setup doesnt work anymore...
tried detection with different settings, optimised after detection, but every optimisation gives more weird results.
setup: nikon d300 with peleng 8mm, APP detects it correctly, but then it gets worse...
APP 1.4.2 managed it much better... see screenshots


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#2 2009-05-09 12:16:11

mediavets
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Re: APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

Try this.

Make a pano using a set of FE images, shot in the same sequenece at the same pan head positions, that stitch easily - I suspect your  troublesome example set has features that confuse SIFT, repeating elements or something like that?

Then 'Save as a template' - name it, for example 'Peleng 8mm'.

The use that template when stitching your troublesome image set - I think you may get a good result.

I'd love to see that troublesome image set if you are are able to put it somewher on the Web where I can downlaod it and have a go at stitching it.

This little known simple template feature works very well in my experience.


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#3 2009-05-09 13:59:14

machart
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Re: APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

hi, mediavets!

thanks for your advice, the idea with the template is good...
but the problem is definitely the 2.0 algorithm:

1. detected the set (5+zenith+nadir) in 1.4.2 and got an almost good result.
2. tried the same in 2.0 and got weird stuff
3. opened the 1.4.2 version in 2.0 and found what is going wrong: after optimisation all shots have f=29.38mm - it should be 12.2mm. after local optimising the zenith has 34.52mm, the nadir 28.90mm...
so the algorithm doesnt keep the focal length but tries to fit it anyway... but wrong - almost 35mm instead of 12 is quite a difference...


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#4 2009-05-09 14:04:47

mediavets
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Re: APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

machart wrote:

hi, mediavets!

thanks for your advice, the idea with the template is good...
but the problem is definitely the 2.0 algorithm:

Did you try a template?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#5 2009-05-11 12:06:15

AlexandreJ
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Re: APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

Could you share this project Machart ? I would like to find the reason behind this behavior.

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#6 2009-05-11 14:11:46

machart
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Re: APP2 OSX - fisheye not working anymore

uff lot of MB... i will try the next days;)


::: close to the rainbow :::
D300S, 18-200mm, 10,5mm, NN3, iMac i7
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