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#1 2009-03-24 13:45:46

Jools
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Problemes avec le collage du ciel

Bonjour à tous, wink
Voilà un mois environs que je travail sur autopano pro et un probleme revient chaques fois que je tente de faire un panorama 360x180 ou il y a du ciel. Il ne trouve pas de points de connections entre certaines images car il n'y figure que du ciel et l'eclat du soleil.
Quelqu'un pourrait il me donner un coup de main sur ce probleme ou bien me donner sa technique pour le resoudre !?
Merci d'avance et bonne journée cool

PS: Voici quelques panoramas cylindriques: http://viewat.org/?i=en&id_aut=1808 … amp;sec=pn

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#2 2009-03-24 14:21:51

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Re: Problemes avec le collage du ciel

Two solutions neither of which you may like:

1. Use a fisheye lens which gives so much greater FOV per image, then it's most likely that APP/APG will be able to find links between the 'sky shot' and other shots.

2. Use a Gigapan (if using a compact camera) or a Merlin/Papywizard robotic head (if using a DSLR), APPv2/APG have special import filters for panos shot with these robotic heads which enables the placement of 'featureless' images such as sky shots.

Other possible solutions:

3. Try the template function in APPv2/APG - I haven't tried this but it may work.

4. Force all shots in to the pano and first try 'guess image location", if that doesn't help then use the Move Image mode in the Pano Editor to place the 'orphaned shots' manually - this is a bit tricky and gets to be a real chore if yoiuy have many orphaned shots.

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What camera/lens and pano head are you using now?

Update - I see from viewat that you are using:
Canon 400D + obj 18-55 mm + trépied manfrotto 190xbpro
Tête ninja nodal nn3 + autopano pro + pano2qtvr

So the Merlin/Papywizard robotic pano head would work very well with your camera and the kit lens and many other lenses. And that will solve your 'orphaned' images problem.

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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#3 2009-03-24 16:32:44

Jools
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Re: Problemes avec le collage du ciel

Thx Mediavets, I dont understand everything but thx for the answer. I wonder if it is possible to do it simply with what i have for the moment, cause everything to by is expensive !!! Some of my sphericals are ok but because i put myself under a tree or something like that wich help for stytching.
I have to continu to search for manual way of doing it for the moment. Hope u understand my bad english and thx again !!! wink

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#4 2009-03-24 17:07:02

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Re: Problemes avec le collage du ciel

Jools wrote:

Thx Mediavets, I dont understand everything but thx for the answer. I wonder if it is possible to do it simply with what i have for the moment, cause everything to by is expensive !!! Some of my sphericals are ok but because i put myself under a tree or something like that wich help for stytching.
I have to continu to search for manual way of doing it for the moment.

Try suggestions 3 and 4, then.

Hope u understand my bad english and thx again !!! wink

No problem, most of the native speakers in the UK don't have very good English these days.wink And that's not taking into consideration a plethora of regional accents and dialect words. And your English is far superior to my French (or any other language for that matter).

The thing with English is that so many nationalities speak it either as first or second or third language and there are so many people here who come from ethnic communities or who were born abroad that we are very used to hearing English spoken with a multitude of accents that it's not an issue.

There is a primary school in London where over 50 languages are spoken by the kids.

It's quite different in countries with a very homogenous population where they seldom hear their native language spoken by a non-native or see their language written by a non-native.

One of my grandsons was born in Cambodia and moved to the UK aged 5 just last summer. Before he moved here he could understand some English but spoke only a few English words. Within weeks his English was good enough to attend school here, and now he's fluent and has all but lost his Khmer. My son spent many years in Cambodia and could speak Khmer fairly fluently with a good accent - but never learned to write it - he had lots of fun with the locals who never supposed a Brit would be able to understand their language and so often spoke about him in Khmer in his presence. And they were quite shocked when he would join in the conversation in Khmer.

Last edited by mediavets (2009-03-24 17:07:38)


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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