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APP's approach of using an alpha channel to remove moving objects from a source image to avoid ghosting when smartblend can't figure things out is an interesting one.
I am just curious if there is a good workflow to do it? Right now I have to identify the bad images, load them into my photo editor, edit them, save them back out as a tiff or png, go into the layer editor, remove the original image, add the new edited image, and hand connect the new image where the old one used to be connected. This is a lot of work (Especially compared to the pano program I used to use most, panorama factory, where you just redraw the blend lines with the mouse to avoid the moving objects.)
I tried using "guess location of unlinked images" but didn't have any luck. Am I using it wrong?
Short of an internal interface for placing the blend zones (which I still think would be a handy thing) there are many ways this could be easier. It would be nice if one could right-click on the image you want to hand-edit and have it offer loading the image in photoshop or gimp. Then, after I save out the new image, a right-click on the image to "replace this image" would work well, or some other easier flow.
Or am I just doing it wrong?
I've found a number of other places where, due to either parallax or mistakes by APP in warping photographs that I get discontinuities. It generally does a good job, but when it makes these mistakes I am keen to find ways to fix them.
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When I need to hide some part in source picture, I don't want APP to make new geometric analysis or change the already stitched picures.
I close APP as it is hanging the source pictures (my sources are generally TIF). I keep a copy of the original TIF, I edit directly the source to add an Alpha layer and paint the mask in the Alpha layer, then save to same file. Then I reload the project under APP.
If I need to change the format (JPEG to TIF), the file name will change. I edit the .pano file with a Text Editor to change directly the file name
example:
<Image>
<FullFilename> subfoldername/myimage01.jpg </FullFilename>
becomes:
<Image>
<FullFilename> subfoldername/myimage01.tif </FullFilename>
You can do it, only if you fill confident.
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Yes, since my sources are usually jpeg I would need to edit the .pano file to do this, which would work but is hardly an ideal workflow. And I also prefer to keep source images as they are, though it's tolerable to copy the source to a safe copy and then edit the original if I happen to be working on tiffs. So I guess count this as a feature request for a nicer workflow on such tweaks, such as a menu option to let me edit and rename in one swoop, or better still a whole new UI of tweaking the blend that lets me draw the blend zones.
In theory though, replacing an image with an identical image with a bit of erased material should not cause a different geometry analysis, but who knows!
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bradtem wrote:
... In theory though, replacing an image with an identical image with a bit of erased material should not cause a different geometry analysis, but who knows!
A new detection with some images having 'hidden' areas will certainly change the panorama geometry as these hidden area will not received any CPs. By reloading a modified .pano with only new filenames or source-version, geometry is untouched, only the blender (smartblend is better with Alpha layer) will skip these hidden areas from blending.
I agree that changing filenames and/or editing .pano as text file is not user friendly but it's working, waiting for a cool procedure under APP.
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