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#1 2008-11-03 19:07:40

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User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

I've not yet had an opportunity to run my Merlin head on battery power because the battery holders were missing when it was delivered. But I am due to receive a replacement tomorrow.

FWIW the Merlin worked fine using a 12V 500ma mains adapter.

I am interested in hearing about user experiences with batteries and battery life with the Merlin head.

What batteries are you using?

What would you reommend?

What sort of battery life are you getting?

Do you have/use an 8 battery charger?

Are you using very high speed chargers?

Last edited by mediavets (2008-11-04 00:44:53)


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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
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#2 2008-11-03 19:39:44

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

I use Ni-mH batteries. I didn't yet make tests, but I think the (used) Nokia batteries will be the problem.


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#3 2008-11-03 21:03:44

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

mediavets wrote:

I've not yet had an opportunity to run my Merlin head on battery power because the battery holders were missing when it was delivered. But I am due to receive a replacement tomorrow.

I am interested in hearing about user experiences with batteries and battery life with the Merlin head.

What batteries are you using?

What would you reommend?

What sort of battery life are you getting?

Do you have/use an 8 battery charger?

Are you using very high speed chargers?

I tested a campact battery from a motorcycle - fixed it to a tripod-leg. Worked fine - would have done it constantly for some days i think . . cool

For my N800 i´m gonna get a scond accu . . but here also i´m looking for a bigger one which connects at the load-jack.


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#4 2008-11-03 21:14:58

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

I wonder if it could not be possible to power the Nokia from the Merlin... Don't know if it requires a special electronic (constant curent source), or not...


Frédéric

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#5 2008-11-03 21:56:29

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

fma38 wrote:

I wonder if it could not be possible to power the Nokia from the Merlin... Don't know if it requires a special electronic (constant curent source), or not...

Would that not rather undermine the notion- and benefits - of having a wireless connection between the head and the Papywizard host system?

What aspect of Papywizard running on Nokia uses so much (most) power - is it the Bluetooth?

Ar people using genuine Nokia batteries in their Tablets or third party batteries?


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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
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#6 2008-11-03 21:59:32

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

fma38 wrote:

I wonder if it could not be possible to power the Nokia from the Merlin... Don't know if it requires a special electronic (constant curent source), or not...

Seems some have found a way to extend battery autonomy for Nokia Tablets:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ … al-battery
http://blog.russnelson.com/770/N800-ext … ttery.html

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forum … hp?t=18860

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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#7 2008-11-03 23:17:07

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

It is possible to use an "external battery" with the reference "EDC004U".
You can find it by a search on Google.

For France you can find-it by following the next link :
http://www.globale-batterie.com/advance … ds=EDC004U

Claude
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#8 2008-11-03 23:27:33

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

I just finished assembling my unit yesterday, so I can't speak to battery tests. ( A thanks to everyone who has written about their experiences, and a big thanks to Frederic for Papywizard!)

I was thinking of exploring the use of those rechargeable batteries used in cordless drills. They come in 9v or 12V and are relatively compact. My local recycle centre often has them for a couple of dollars. If they worked, it might be worth buying a new one.

My Nokia 770 came with a 12V car charger. I wonder if I could adapt it to run off of the Orion power out. It could be handy for emergencies.

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#9 2008-11-03 23:29:30

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life


cool Claude cool
Merlin + Papywizard on Windows 7 & Nokia 770 § N810 & Acer (Netbook) + PanoramaApp Androïd + Deltawave PapyMerlin BT + Autopano
Spherical Pano (180 x 360) with Canon 40D + Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 Zoom & Pôle Pano with Canon 5D MK2 and shaved Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
Gigapixel photography with Nikon D200 + Sigma 70-200 F 2.8 EX DG APO HSM

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#10 2008-11-03 23:50:51

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

claudevh wrote:

It is possible to use an "external battery" with the reference "EDC004U".
You can find it by a search on Google.

For France you can find-it by following the next link :
http://www.globale-batterie.com/advance … ds=EDC004U

Claude
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And for the US:
http://www.digital-camera-battery.net// … DC004U.htm

And for the UK:
http://gogo-power.co.uk/product_info.ph … ts_id/2904

Last edited by mediavets (2008-11-04 00:31:51)


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#11 2008-11-05 20:57:06

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

If shooting using Papywizard on a Nokia Tablet is it worth shutting down the Bluetooth connection between pano shoots to extend battery autonomy - or does it make no difference?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#12 2008-11-05 21:12:47

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

Yes, bluetooth uses a lot of current. Shutting it down is a good idea. As well as turning off the display (using the power button followed by the square button.


Frédéric

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Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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#13 2008-11-05 21:59:24

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

fma38 wrote:

Yes, bluetooth uses a lot of current. Shutting it down is a good idea. As well as turning off the display (using the power button followed by the square button.

OK - thanks for the tips.

But that implies that it would be good to turn off the BT-RS232-TTL combo device interfacing with the Merlin head too? Currently there is only one way to do this - physically disconnect the RJ11 cable or turn off the whole head - would you advocate doing this too?


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#14 2008-11-05 22:03:27

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

Yes, better switch off the head.


Frédéric

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Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia N800 and HP TC-1100

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#15 2008-11-06 15:10:57

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

External lead acid battery packs - good for Merlin?:
http://www.opticalvision.co.uk/astronom … ower_tanks


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#16 2008-11-06 16:09:15

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Re: User Experience Of Batteries And Battery Life

Yes, sure. 9V is enough.


Frédéric

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