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#26 2013-02-13 18:32:54

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

klausesser wrote:

Hellkeeper wrote:

this problem is already solved

how?

best, Klaus

as posted some posts above - i checked the 360° button in importer? ;-)
Problems that still exist: "wavy" image (which I will solve in PS as it look like) and the fact I cannot render the Pano ...

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#27 2013-02-13 18:35:25

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hellkeeper wrote:

Problems that still exist: "wavy" image (which I will solve in PS as it look like) and the fact I cannot render the Pano ...

Andreas

What is the hardware spec. of the system on which you are trying to render the pano?


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#28 2013-02-13 18:35:32

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hellkeeper wrote:

Problems that still exist: "wavy" image

That´s what i meant . . . .

Did you see my posts #21 and #22?

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#29 2013-02-13 18:38:33

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

@mediavets: It's a HP z210 Workstation with i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, OCZ RevoDrive3x2, 2x Velociraptor - largest Picture I stitched with this Machine and APG 2.6 was about 88 Gigapixel
@klausesser: will have a look into that smile


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#30 2013-02-13 19:04:36

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

@klausesser: Would love to try this ... but the button is simply greyd out here ... ?!?

http://in.futureweb.at/temp/gpix/apg_vertical.jpg


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#31 2013-02-13 19:30:13

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hellkeeper wrote:

@klausesser: Would love to try this ... but the button is simply greyd out here ... ?!?

http://in.futureweb.at/temp/gpix/apg_vertical.jpg

ok:
1) set the projection to spherical.
2) use the vert. line-tool in the way that the yellow dotted lines follow your bent horizon and hit enter.
3) set the projection back to cylindrical.

Done.

best, Klaus

Screenshots: 1, 2, 3


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#32 2013-02-13 21:07:09

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hi Klaus
The vertical-line-tool work well for non 360º-panos, but not very well for real 360º-cylinders.
It will be nice if APG give us an automated tool to maximize the usable pano size like in the example below.

The two images below shows first the wavy look in APG and then the image transformed in PS.


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#33 2013-02-13 21:17:17

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

lumelix wrote:

Hi Klaus
The vertical-line-tool work well for non 360º-panos, but not for real 360º-cylinders.
With sperical panos you can straighten the horizon and you don't lose areas of the 2:1 field (because you have a full sphere). But with cylindrical 360º-panos this wouldn't work.
The two images below shows first the wavy look in APG and then the image transformed in PS.

For this type of pano, I couldn't find a solution to avoid this wavy look.
I have done a transformation in PS, but you can forget this with bigger panos wink
So, we are at the point discuss last week, we need a real horizontal-line-tool!

This tool should be able to straighten such a wavy pano to maximize the usable pano size.

Hi Martin!

As you can see in my screenshots i worked on a cylindrical and not on a spherical pano.
The point is to change the projection from cylindrical to spherical, straighten the horizon and change the projection back to cylindrical.

As you also can see: it works! cool

The source images are four shots from a GoPro - that means: one row of shots, no Nadir, no Zenith = "real" 360°-cylinder.

best, Klaus

P.S.: would be of great interest if someone from Kolor could find a minute to adress this point . . .

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#34 2013-02-13 21:22:44

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hi Klaus
You are to fast wink I was still hanging on the first page of the post ...
I try out your suggestion with the spherical mode. It's ok but the result isn't optimal.

I like to have an automated "maximize-pano-size-tool" wink
But it's only for suboptimal shots, eg. handheld panos

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#35 2013-02-13 21:41:23

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

lumelix wrote:

It's ok but the result isn't optimal.

In which aspect?

best, Klaus


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#36 2013-02-14 10:05:17

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

Hellkeeper wrote:

thx for replying - but this problem is already solved ... could you please have a look onto Post #20?

Hi Andreas,

I missed that point.... There might an issue regarding the overlap computation. To check that, I would like to give a look at the .pano file. Could you send me this one please ?

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#37 2013-02-14 13:33:18

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

klausesser wrote:

In which aspect?

Hi Klaus
I use the vertical-lines horizontal along the wavy image borders and the tool straighten the pano not bad.
But if I use to much lines, eg. for every image one, then the tool makes nonsens.


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#38 2013-02-14 14:26:28

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Re: 360° Gigapixel

lumelix wrote:

klausesser wrote:

In which aspect?

Hi Klaus
I use the vertical-lines horizontal along the wavy image borders and the tool straighten the pano not bad.
But if I use to much lines, eg. for every image one, then the tool makes nonsens.

Hi Martin!

The use is to align the yellow dotted lines along your HORIZON - not along the borders of the image! winkcool
You most unlikely need to use more than 3 or 4 lines. Pull the vertical (blue) lines up or down on their upper or lower handles to make the yellow lines longer.

best, Klaus


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