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#1 2013-01-21 20:29:13

kosmomedia2004
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excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

Hi everybody,

I want to convert an already excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama. How can I do that with AutoPano Giga?

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#2 2013-01-22 00:43:33

gkaefer
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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

quick and dirty with apg:
on your harddisc: copy your spherical image.
start autopano
load "both" images.
detect
change projection
render pano...

Georg

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#3 2013-01-22 01:08:33

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

That's great ! Thank you !

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#4 2013-01-22 14:00:57

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

So the next Problem appeared, maybe you can help me once again...

Your discription is great and at the first sight it works without problems. But if I import the created cylindrical panorama into krpano, either the tour-creating-progress doesn´t work, or the result is faulty ( the point where the panorama is fixed together has bugs). Here are two examples:


****
spherical:
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/4246/bmw1ix.jpg

cylindrical:
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/6568/group10bmw12bmw12images.jpg

*****
spherical:
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/8271/87861828.jpg

cylindrical:
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/3029/group112222images.jpg

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#5 2013-01-22 14:36:37

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

Panotour and Panotour Pro only accept images with a spherical projection or a planar (flat) projection.

But perhaps you are hand coding for krpano and not using Panotour or Panotour Pro?

Why did you particularly want to use an image with a cylindrical projection?


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#6 2013-01-22 14:51:29

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

kosmomedia2004 wrote:

Your discription is great and at the first sight it works without problems. But if I import the created cylindrical panorama into krpano, either the tour-creating-progress doesn´t work, or the result is faulty ( the point where the panorama is fixed together has bugs).

Looking at your examples I note that the conversion process from a spherical to a cylindrical projection has resulted in the images being cropped slightly on both the horizontal axis and the vertical axis; so the images no longer have a full 360 degree HFOV.

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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#7 2013-01-22 14:59:54

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

I did download your car/hall example.
I did import your spherical into apg 3.0.3 and did detect it with cylindical procejtion. I used 8mm  (with very curved result, so cropping has to cutoff most of bottom and top, but keeping the width left->right direction uncut.) the resulting pano was not in 2:1 ratio (I had in this case to add some pixels on nadir/bottom line). ptp 1.8 had not problem to create a seamless tour. but as you may have recognized... its detectes as spherical pano because of 2:1 ratio.
I did also raise the focal value up to 85mm with result that curving gets more and more reduced, so cropping is only cutting a small part).
using planar projection I had not to crop the pano.

creating a virtual tour is another side of the coin... as Andrew did mention.

because of the crop you did in apg lines got cut on zenith and nadir... so a seamless border cant be possible because content was cutoff. you have to know how many was deleted. than you can enlarge your pano to get back an 2:1 ratio. you can fill it with black pixels or with an nadir/zenitz patch logo or so.

But if you wanna create a 360x180 tour with cylindrical panos it would be much easier to stick on spherical of planar projection instead of cylindrical - no cropping is needed, so no content get removed and a seamless tour is easy to create.

Georg

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#8 2013-01-22 22:44:26

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

I don´t need it for panotour pro. Take a look at this, these requirements I have to fulfill:

Virtual Tours.
Cylindrical virtual tour files are ideal.
Ideal Image Size: Minimum of 7000 pixels wide x 1750 pixels high.
Ideal Aspect Ratio: 4:1 height to width ratio.
Ideal File Types: Cylindrical JPEG or MOV

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#9 2013-01-22 23:51:56

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

kosmomedia2004 wrote:

I don´t need it for panotour pro. Take a look at this, these requirements I have to fulfill:

Virtual Tours.
Cylindrical virtual tour files are ideal.
Ideal Image Size: Minimum of 7000 pixels wide x 1750 pixels high.
Ideal Aspect Ratio: 4:1 height to width ratio.
Ideal File Types: Cylindrical JPEG or MOV

Where does the specification of these 'requirements' come from?


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Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#10 2013-01-23 00:37:10

kosmomedia2004
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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

They come from a client, it´s for a job.

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#11 2013-01-23 00:55:06

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

using my mehod from above...
I have to set the focal of the two images. If I take 8mm I get very curved result. to maintain the horizontal pixels untouched I than have to crop a lot.
so if I use 85mm instead than nearly no curving does take place and very less croping is needed. If I crop in any case and render it than the resulting pano does have perfect seams (using panotour pro 1.8). in cropping mode you can see the pixels... so you can get finally your 4:1 ration with some try and error.

Georg

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#12 2013-01-23 10:21:33

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Re: excisting spherical panorama into an cylindrical panorama !

kosmomedia2004 wrote:

They come from a client, it´s for a job.

Weird, and what will the client be doing with these images?

How badly do you want the job?- I think this is one I'd pass up because it sounds as if the client doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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