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#1 2013-01-14 16:51:20

pdesmidt
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Film Scanner

A couple of friends and I are working on making a copy stand style film scanner. Our goal is to make a set of open source plans so that photographers can DIY their own scanners. We use a dslr, a macro lens at 1:1, and a moving negative stage.  For instance, with my D200, I capture 16 frames in a 4x4 grid to cover a 6x7cm negative.  We'd then like to stitch the frames together to give us our final "scan".  We have manual prototypes working, and we've been able to get better scans than with consumer flatbeds.

One issue we have is that it's hard to align areas of a negative that are relatively featureless, such as a wide expanse of clear sky, and we'd like to come up with a reliable stitching solution for our situation.

The system involves multiple viewpoints with no changes in camera rotation between shots.  Thus, the multi-viewpoint feature should be helpful, right?

Currently, we're working on automating the movment of the negative stage using stepper motors.  As a result, we should be able to make very repeatable grids of scan.  It would thus seem that a type of align to grid feature would be helpful, but this only appears to be available if your images with captures with specific motorized pano-heads.  Is there any way to use this feature in our situation?

Any other suggestions as to how to improve our stitching workflow would be greatly appreciated.

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#2 2013-01-14 17:03:05

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Re: Film Scanner

Welcome to the forum...

Three possible approaches- I don't know if any will work:

1. When you have achieved a good stitch with set of images which do have sufficient detail, then save as a template and then apply that to other sets.

2. Try the Gigapan Import filter selecting a shooting pattern that matches that you are using.

3. Using the free Papywizard software in simulation mode create an XML format data file and use that with the Papywizard Import filter.

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Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#3 2013-01-16 06:03:16

Daniel Moore
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Re: Film Scanner

On a related note, is it possible to drive two off the shelf stepper motors directly with Papywizard?

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#4 2013-01-16 06:15:07

pdesmidt
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Re: Film Scanner

Thank you, Mediavets, for your suggestions!

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#5 2013-01-22 09:53:35

Daniel Moore
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Re: Film Scanner

I imagine a Merlin or Orion controller are required.

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#6 2013-01-22 10:06:33

mediavets
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Re: Film Scanner

Daniel Moore wrote:

On a related note, is it possible to drive two off the shelf stepper motors directly with Papywizard?

I suggest you ask the question here:

http://www.kolor.com/forum/f20-motorize … papywizard

It's more likely to get a response there.


Andrew Stephens
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, Nikkor 18-55/50/35mm lenses, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite, Nodal Ninja 4 with R-D16, Agno's MrotatorTCS short.
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket, Agno's MrotatorA.
Merlin/Orion robotic pano head + Papywizard on Nokia 770/N800/N810 and Windows 8/XP/2K.

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#7 2013-01-24 01:28:09

tomasulo
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Re: Film Scanner

Hello,
If I am understanding you correctly, you and I may be doing a very similar thing.  Please check out a thread I started a few days.
http://www.kolor.com/forum/t16873-optim … s-question

I have a negative stage running on an XY table with steppers.  It works perfectly.  And I had the exact question about stitching featureless sections together.  So far so good, and I've been thrilled with the results I am getting.  You can private message me as well if you are interested in more details.

Andrew

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