Hi Klaus,

I already have an "in-house" solution, I've all my files backed up on a NAS. But I need also something outside of my house.

Now I've all my "normal" photos backed up with SugarSync, about 400Gb. No problem at all with this. But SugarSync has no more than 500Gb plan. So I've no space there for the big files.
For my experience, the first upload of all my photos (not panos) one year ago (about 300Gb), it took 6 days. So if now I've about 1TB for the panos, it'll take aprox. 20 days. This is no the problem, is only the first time.

As additional functionality, almost any of these cloud services, they let you share the link for any image or folder, embed folders on your web, etc.


Regards,

Guillermo

Hi Georg,

The solution you say is the one I already have (I've a ReadyNAS with 6x1TB X-RAID with dual redundancy), but as told, is an in-house solution.

For the monthly cost, today there're cost effective solutions, cheaper than SugarSync or DropBox. Take a look at www.nomadesk.com or www.gladinet.com (they're more options).
For the security, for example Nomadesk has a unique key for the "vault" you create, all data 256 bit encrypted. It uses rsync and encrypted data when uploading/downloading... which encryption uses any of the banking solutions you probably use?  Probably 128 bit on standard https ports...
For any hacker will be easier to try attack your in-house shared NAS than Nomadesk or other services.

Another very-easy solution is to use one or more USB 3.0 HDs and take them with you to another place (home/office). But this is a manual solution.

Sorry if I make the "devil's advocate"  (I don't know if we say this in english ), but I'm turning to this solution a while looking for pros and cons.


Regards,

Guillermo

gpfoto wrote:

Sorry if I make the "devil's advocate"  (I don't know if we say this in english ), but I'm turning to this solution a while looking for pros and cons.

Tell you what: i don´t know any professional photographer having his material in the cloud. Not a single one - and i know many.

Let me speak of myself:  when i work on an assignment where most likely the client or the i myself need to access image material on the server from anywhere
i configure an access for the client and me on the server. This access is ONE folder and doesn´t endanger other material.

Images can be very sensible when you photograph advertising jobs - usually the ideas of campaigns are kept in secret as long as possible. Hundreds of thousends of Dollars or Euros are on risk
developing and realizing an advertising campaign . . and when a client´s competitor sees early enough what the clients intend to do . . . it all was in vain.
As a photographer you need to sign non-disclosure agreements nearly each time you work such a job. I had a big automobile client who sent two of his IT men
to check my whole IT system to see whether it´s really secure.

Seeing me having sensible image data in the cloud they would have gone nuts, i bet . . . .

But - agreeing to Georg: the time for uploads is unacceptable.

best, Klaus

gpfoto wrote:

Hi Klaus,

Well, I'm not a professional, so this can be an important difference on the two point of view we've. I really understand what you say about sensible images, risk, campaigns, etc.

The problem of having only in-house solutions can be a fire, theft on your home/office (where you work). Therefore considering the importance, also for you the professional, of the material you have, I think is always required to have a copy on another place.

I guess that you, as a professional, take many pictures, not gigapans, everyday. So the upload time is not so much. I now have a 100Mb/10Mb F.O. connection, this uploads fast.


Regards,

Guillermo

than choose an ISP which does offer vsphere and bigger products. There you can put a physical duplicate of your NAS and you can access via secure VPN.
no cloud, no millions (just hundrets) of brazil,indian,chinese hackers trying 24hours to find the key.... (and VPNs and secure remote connections can also be tricked...)
the ISPs server room is away from your office, this ISP does not limit the bandwith of your uploads - cloud provider does this) the ISPs facility is climated, does have fireprotection, backup uplink connections and backup power connections.
as an example some here in Salzburg: www.conova.com (reference customers: several banks from Austria and Switzerland, the Austrian Domain Registry nic.at and many more...)
does use banks, insurances, electricity providers the cloud? In any case I can drive to the ISP get access with fingerprint and irisscan plus 16character password to my server, exchanging the harddrive if desired I can do it or the ISP can do it. with problems in the cloud you can watch tv...

amazon, sidekick, google mail, hotmail, intuit, Microsofts BPOSS, Salesforce, Terremark, PayPal, Rackspace, Amazon-Cloud and propably many more had incidents of catastrophic magnitude until now...

ps: 10mbit upload... = 1megabyte per second in optimum case... so a 6GB psb pano will take 1.7 hours to upload.... so you better upgrade to 100mbit upload speed and make sure via written treaty with the cloud provider you get not speedlimited... good luck.

Georg

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