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#1 2012-12-30 16:59:10

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Delete of a Control Point

In the CP editor, when you delete a CP in the left sub window (Pts Ctrl), the 2 images of the link disappear.
(Deleting a CP from one the left or right image is OK)
Win 7 64, APG 3.0.1
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#2 2012-12-30 20:07:30

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Nanard wrote:

In the CP editor, when you delete a CP in the left sub window (Pts Ctrl), the 2 images of the link disappear.
(Deleting a CP from one the left or right image is OK)
Win 7 64, APG 3.0.1
Bernard

also on win7 64bit, APG  3.0.1. I cant see this behavior. in all cases only the CPs get deleted. even if I delete in your way all CPs the images only disappear. but in top left window the images are still listed, now makred with None in the column Linked to. After seelcting both images they are shown again so I can insert new CPs...

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#3 2012-12-31 14:59:20

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

gkaefer wrote:

also on win7 64bit, APG  3.0.1. I cant see this behavior. in all cases only the CPs get deleted. even if I delete in your way all CPs the images only disappear. but in top left window the images are still listed, now makred with None in the column Linked to. After seelcting both images they are shown again so I can insert new CPs...

Georg

Strange, I can reproduce it easily and systematically :
. enter the CP editor,
. select one image in the list (left window, upper part)
. select a link (left window, lower part)
. hit 'Pts Ctrl',  left window, lower part
. select a CP , left window lower part
. hit DEL key
and the 2 views disappear.

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#4 2013-01-05 16:46:15

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Are you able to reproduce it, Kolor ?
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#5 2013-01-05 16:59:28

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Nanard wrote:

Strange, I can reproduce it easily and systematically :
. enter the CP editor,
. select one image in the list (left window, upper part)
. select a link (left window, lower part)
. hit 'Pts Ctrl',  left window, lower part
. select a CP , left window lower part
. hit DEL key
and the 2 views disappear.
Bernard

Hi Bernard!

I tested it on Win7/64 right now - i can´t reproduce it. Can you make some screenshots? I´m not sure to understand precisely.

best, Klaus


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#6 2013-01-05 19:25:54

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

I can replicate that OK (on XP as well)

It's exactly as Bernard says on the tin

Select a "middle" image of a pano that links to >1 other image and select it in the CP editor (so just 1 image on view)
Select the Links tab
Select one of the links
Select the Ctrl Pts tab
Select one of the CP pairs
Delete it with the delete key
The image pair disappears from the CP images

You have to do it exactly this way - if you just select just the CP pair without selecting the Link first it doesn't happen

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Martin

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#7 2013-01-05 22:24:46

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

marzipano wrote:

I can replicate that OK (on XP as well)

It's exactly as Bernard says on the tin

Select a "middle" image of a pano that links to >1 other image and select it in the CP editor (so just 1 image on view)
Select the Links tab
Select one of the links
Select the Ctrl Pts tab
Select one of the CP pairs
Delete it with the delete key
The image pair disappears from the CP images

You have to do it exactly this way - if you just select just the CP pair without selecting the Link first it doesn't happen

best
Martin

Hi Martin!

Try to use the "-" symbol in the editor after selecting one or several points seperately.

best, Klaus


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#8 2013-01-06 01:18:52

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

marzipano wrote:

I can replicate that OK (on XP as well)

It's exactly as Bernard says on the tin

Select a "middle" image of a pano that links to >1 other image and select it in the CP editor (so just 1 image on view)
Select the Links tab
Select one of the links
Select the Ctrl Pts tab
Select one of the CP pairs
Delete it with the delete key
The image pair disappears from the CP images

You have to do it exactly this way - if you just select just the CP pair without selecting the Link first it doesn't happen

best
Martin

sorry. no I can ;-) ... see the difference.
see Video - autopano is acting differently doing the same thin by doing it in two different ways...
(sorry for flickering in parts of Video...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE7EKRdSm30

fist shown method Shows the "deletion" the second method Shows the difference (the "non-deletion")

Georg

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#9 2013-01-06 15:24:45

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

klausesser wrote:

I tested it on Win7/64 right now - i can´t reproduce it. Can you make some screenshots? I´m not sure to understand precisely.
best, Klaus

Hi Klaus,

Here are 3 screen shots, press DEL key between image 2 and image 3 . Pressing the '-' symbol of the editor produces the same result.
Best,
Bernard


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#10 2013-01-06 15:39:30

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

marzipano wrote:

I can replicate that OK (on XP as well)

It's exactly as Bernard says on the tin

Select a "middle" image of a pano that links to >1 other image and select it in the CP editor (so just 1 image on view)
Select the Links tab
Select one of the links
Select the Ctrl Pts tab
Select one of the CP pairs
Delete it with the delete key
The image pair disappears from the CP images

You have to do it exactly this way - if you just select just the CP pair without selecting the Link first it doesn't happen

best
Martin

I can reproduce this with APG 3.01 on Windows XP/32.

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#11 2013-01-06 15:46:46

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

On image 2, the Ctrl point #14 is selected by hitting the corresponding line in the left window.  'DEL' then produces image 3.

Instead of selecting the Ctrl pt in the left window, if you select it directly in the view, the problem does not occur.

The interest of the left window is that you can sort the Ctrl pts by decreasing RMS, and then delete the highest RMS Ctrl Pt.

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#12 2013-01-06 18:03:56

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Nanard wrote:

klausesser wrote:

I tested it on Win7/64 right now - i can´t reproduce it. Can you make some screenshots? I´m not sure to understand precisely.
best, Klaus

Hi Klaus,

Here are 3 screen shots, press DEL key between image 2 and image 3 . Pressing the '-' symbol of the editor produces the same result.
Best,
Bernard

I mean: select/highlight a point and press "-" in the menuebar of that window - not "Del" on your keyboard or somewhere else (maybe i misunderstood).

I don´t know this issue on Mac 10.6.8 and also not on PC Win7/64 - on both platforms it works as it should.

best and good luck, Klaus

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#13 2013-01-06 23:34:44

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

klausesser wrote:

Nanard wrote:

klausesser wrote:

I tested it on Win7/64 right now - i can´t reproduce it. Can you make some screenshots? I´m not sure to understand precisely.
best, Klaus

Hi Klaus,

Here are 3 screen shots, press DEL key between image 2 and image 3 . Pressing the '-' symbol of the editor produces the same result.
Best,
Bernard

I mean: select/highlight a point and press "-" in the menuebar of that window - not "Del" on your keyboard or somewhere else (maybe i misunderstood).

I don´t know this issue on Mac 10.6.8 and also not on PC Win7/64 - on both platforms it works as it should.

best and good luck, Klaus

Klaus, scroll up to my last link with the Video I made. I also did not see it. you can go to the CRTL Pts window in 2 different ways in one the Image "are visible gone" the other way they are not. It is cosmetic anyway in both variations it is not affecting the result not the workflow. the Images are also nor really deleted. but finally it is an inconsistency and so finally a bug. cant say if this is on mac too.

Georg

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#14 2013-01-07 00:11:21

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

gkaefer wrote:

klausesser wrote:

Nanard wrote:


Hi Klaus,

Here are 3 screen shots, press DEL key between image 2 and image 3 . Pressing the '-' symbol of the editor produces the same result.
Best,
Bernard

I mean: select/highlight a point and press "-" in the menuebar of that window - not "Del" on your keyboard or somewhere else (maybe i misunderstood).

I don´t know this issue on Mac 10.6.8 and also not on PC Win7/64 - on both platforms it works as it should.

best and good luck, Klaus

Klaus, scroll up to my last link with the Video I made. I also did not see it. you can go to the CRTL Pts window in 2 different ways in one the Image "are visible gone" the other way they are not. It is cosmetic anyway in both variations it is not affecting the result not the workflow. the Images are also nor really deleted. but finally it is an inconsistency and so finally a bug. cant say if this is on mac too.

Georg

1) two images in thje CP-editor
2) one point selected (No. 29)
3) one point deleted (No. 29)
4) Images both still there.

best, Klaus


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#15 2013-01-07 00:28:00

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

klausesser wrote:

gkaefer wrote:

klausesser wrote:


I mean: select/highlight a point and press "-" in the menuebar of that window - not "Del" on your keyboard or somewhere else (maybe i misunderstood).

I don´t know this issue on Mac 10.6.8 and also not on PC Win7/64 - on both platforms it works as it should.

best and good luck, Klaus

Klaus, scroll up to my last link with the Video I made. I also did not see it. you can go to the CRTL Pts window in 2 different ways in one the Image "are visible gone" the other way they are not. It is cosmetic anyway in both variations it is not affecting the result not the workflow. the Images are also nor really deleted. but finally it is an inconsistency and so finally a bug. cant say if this is on mac too.

Georg

1) two images in thje CP-editor
2) one point selected (No. 29)
3) one point deleted (No. 29)
4) Images both still there.

best, Klaus

;-) and how did you come to see 1) window. ther are 2 different ways. one with your effect, one with "deleted images" shown...
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#16 2013-01-07 01:04:01

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

finally I made a new video.

three ways to get to the point you can delete CRTL-Points.
the first method in video does show the issue.
the second & third method in video does not show the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x5nz0nEONA

Georg

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#17 2013-01-07 09:14:30

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Hello all,

Thanks for all those tests and detailed report. We opened issue 1710 to fix this issue.

Regards,
Thomas

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#18 2013-01-07 12:09:15

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Georg,
Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate this bug.
There are indeed several ways to select a Ctrl Pt, some are OK, one has the problem.
BTW, the problem was not present in 2.6.4
Best,
Bernard

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#19 2013-01-07 12:21:32

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

To all,
Sorry for that, but I forgot to wish you a happy new year, full of wonderful images and panoramics in particular.
A Kolor, bravo et continuez ainsi ...
Bernard

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#20 2013-01-07 15:32:39

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

gkaefer wrote:

;-) and how did you come to see 1) window. ther are 2 different ways. one with your effect, one with "deleted images" shown...
Georg

I don´t understand what you mean, Georg!

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#21 2013-01-07 15:39:20

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

gkaefer wrote:

finally I made a new video.

three ways to get to the point you can delete CRTL-Points.
the first method in video does show the issue.
the second & third method in video does not show the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x5nz0nEONA

Georg

Still don´t get it. How did you delete the CP? Using a keystroke i guess?
Did you try this one after selecting a point?


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#22 2013-01-07 17:28:46

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

klausesser wrote:

1) two images in thje CP-editor

Two images, ... :  No !

Please follow exactly the step by step procedure i mentioned above, or the screen shots :

. enter the CP editor,
. select *one* image in the list (left window, upper part)
. select a link (left window, lower part)
. hit 'Pts Ctrl',  left window, lower part
. select a CP , left window lower part
. hit DEL key
and the 2 views disappear.

4 people in this thread can reproduce the bug, I am sure you will as well smile

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#23 2013-01-07 18:42:55

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Nanard wrote:

klausesser wrote:

1) two images in thje CP-editor

Two images, ... :  No !

Please follow exactly the step by step procedure i mentioned above, or the screen shots :

. enter the CP editor,
. select *one* image in the list (left window, upper part)
. select a link (left window, lower part)
. hit 'Pts Ctrl',  left window, lower part
. select a CP , left window lower part
. hit DEL key
and the 2 views disappear.

4 people in this thread can reproduce the bug, I am sure you will as well smile

Bernard

Bernard:

that´s not the way i use to work. maybe that´s the reason i never encoutered the issue.
The second reason might be: i´m on Mac.

So ii guess it wouldn´t be of any relevance trying your method.

best and good luck, Klaus

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#24 2013-01-08 12:35:06

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Re: Delete of a Control Point

Klaus,
OK, I thought you were using Windows as well.sadsad
Best regards,
Bernard

klausesser wrote:

I don´t know this issue on Mac 10.6.8 and also not on PC Win7/64 - on both platforms it works as it should.

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#25 2013-01-08 15:09:23

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Nanard wrote:

Klaus,
OK, I thought you were using Windows as well.sadsad
Best regards,
Bernard

Hi Bernard!

I am as well on Win7. But i didn´t realize the issue yet. Mac is my main machine.

best to you, Klaus

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