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#1 2012-12-30 23:11:29

adriaanvandam
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How to get the shapest virtualtour.

Hello everyone,

I want to get a good sharp virutaltour.
What is the most ideal jpeg sizes to import?
And what are the best settings in autopanogia and panotourpro?

Now a have a sharp tour from 3 panormas but the swf file is 25 mb... a bit to big for the website smile.

Adriaan..

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#2 2012-12-30 23:28:02

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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

adriaanvandam wrote:

Now a have a sharp tour from 3 panormas but the swf file is 25 mb... a bit to big for the website smile.

Either you want it in very good quality or you want it very small . . . winkcool A tour o 3 panoramas having 25MB is very small.

If you want attractive quality for a 3 panorama-tour consider about 50-75MB at least. Use JPG 8 or 9 but use TIFF as input for PTP.

This single (!) pano is 62MB: http://360impressions.de/MKP_Panorama

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#3 2012-12-30 23:53:05

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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

klausesser wrote:

adriaanvandam wrote:

Now a have a sharp tour from 3 panormas but the swf file is 25 mb... a bit to big for the website smile.

Either you want it in very good quality or you want it very small . . . winkcool A tour o 3 panoramas having 25MB is very small.

If you want attractive quality for a 3 panorama-tour consider about 50-75MB at least. Use JPG 8 or 9 but use TIFF as input for PTP.

This single (!) pano is 62MB: http://360impressions.de/MKP_Panorama

best, Klaus

Hi Klaus, thanks for your reaction.

I think I'm missing something.  How can your file: http://360impressions.de/MKP_Panorama works on the internet with 62 MB. Is it realy true that I'm wachting a tour with 62 mb?  Is't it to much download time? 

Regards, Adriaan.

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#4 2012-12-31 00:04:32

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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

Hi Adriaan.. ptp works like Zoomify software . It brakes the images up into many parts and folders. Then it ONLY loads the slices of the images you need to view at the time.. When you zoom in, it loads a new set of images from a different folder.. Zoom out, and it uses a different set of images. Normally the entire layer of images will load at a single time, so you are basically viewing a pano in multiple layers. Depending on the lens and camera you use, will depend on the extent of zoom.. It also come down to a lot of skill and experience to achieve a nice result.. There are a lot of factors to consider.. I currently have on order a 35mm to allow me to create mega pixel high zoom images, but this comes at a price, the file size are a lot bigger so as a consequence you need computer to handle such files.. I am just learning this.. I need a lot more RAM.. Even a single layer of images would create huge files sizes using a 35mm, and when you get into mega pixel images that have X quantity of bracketed shots makes for great quality panos images but HUGE files sizes...

Destiny


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#5 2012-12-31 00:05:15

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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

adriaanvandam wrote:

klausesser wrote:

adriaanvandam wrote:

Now a have a sharp tour from 3 panormas but the swf file is 25 mb... a bit to big for the website smile.

Either you want it in very good quality or you want it very small . . . winkcool A tour o 3 panoramas having 25MB is very small.

If you want attractive quality for a 3 panorama-tour consider about 50-75MB at least. Use JPG 8 or 9 but use TIFF as input for PTP.

This single (!) pano is 62MB: http://360impressions.de/MKP_Panorama

best, Klaus

Hi Klaus, thanks for your reaction.

I think I'm missing something.  How can your file: http://360impressions.de/MKP_Panorama works on the internet with 62 MB. Is it realy true that I'm wachting a tour with 62 mb?  Is't it to much download time? 

Regards, Adriaan.

that what panotour is for wink
if you create with panotour pro your tour - without using the embed all option... - than you will see many subdirectories with maaaaaany files inside. I've tours online with 1gb size and you can surf them without any problem. only the part will be loaded that is reflecting the visible FOV. and zooming into a pano changes automatically to another size of tiles to load...

as klaus did say. jpg quality 8-10 may give "small" and fast loading result. try it with 12 and loading the same tour will take myriades longer...
and jpg quality does not really have to to with sharpness of your pano. create your tour with ptp and does not embedd the xml files. then you can review them and look for statements like:
http://www.krpano.com/docu/xml/#display.movequality and
http://www.krpano.com/docu/xml/#display.stillquality
and set the values according from LOW,HIGH,BEST ot to HIGHSHARP.
in general I do resharpen the pano not via xml, but in gimp or ps and test the result in the tour.

Georg

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#6 2012-12-31 00:17:35

adriaanvandam
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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

Oh now I get it. I'm a bit blue to this :-).
Do you recomment when exporting the swf file, to turn the 'embed all data' off?

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#7 2012-12-31 00:37:01

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Re: How to get the shapest virtualtour.

adriaanvandam wrote:

Oh now I get it. I'm a bit blue to this :-).
Do you recomment when exporting the swf file, to turn the 'embed all data' off?

Yes!


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